Still better than a 4.5 gun. The RN suffered badly in the Falklands through short sightedness and gaps in capabilities, and is sadly doomed to suffer again unless it takes the enemies and their capabilities and tactics seriously. A string of government websites was hacked on Friday. If allowed to go unchecked, this will only serve to embolden both Putin and Xi, so interesting times ahead for all of us. However, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said he may consider halting the pipeline if Moscow attacks. At least Ukraine is on a democratic pathway! Ooops! Ireland's defence minister says Russian tests off the coast are unwanted, but cannot be stopped. The industry leader for online information for tax, accounting and finance professionals. Sorted. Russian and Chinese Navy Ships Spotted Less Than 100 Miles off U.S. Coast [However] when youre up against a determined opponent on the battlefield you have to go close and personal with your enemy. Yes, its certainly a complex situation, aided no doubt by a perceived weakness of the US, which is currently very poorly led and has been for several years. The BBC said shots were fired and that as many as 20 Russian aircraft were "buzzing" the British ship. I can see why you next comment was For starters. Exercise still underway, they go to the Med when its finished. Could you tell me what youre drinking? ', She said it mimicked the playbook used when Russia annexed the Crimean peninsula, and included social media disinformation to show Kiev as the instigator of violence. Helicopters for the littoral, Nuclear boats for larger vessels. The only Ukraine people fighting for their independence are those in the Donbas. Please leave a comment below if you have something to say! Forces would secure control of a canal that provided Crimea with fresh water supplies until Russia annexed the region and Ukraine stopped the flow, he said. In new training drills yesterday, three dozen Russian warplanes including Su-34 fighter-bombers, Su-25 attack aircraft and MiG-31 fighter-interceptors flew from airfields in Perm, Krasnoyarsk,. He would have stolen a march under US noses, scored a propaganda victory, brought Iraq under Russian influence and probably have prevented the 2003 invasion. "The Royal Navy will always uphold international law and will not accept unlawful interference with innocent passage," Wallace said. The Kremlin also deployed servicemen to Belarus this week, ostensibly for major military operations with the country, sparking fears in neighbouring Lithuania. 'We have information that indicates Russia has already pre-positioned a group of operatives to conduct a false flag operation in eastern Ukraine,' she said. There are thoughts elsewhere that these ships may, initially, be heading to Syria in order to collect troops and equipment for redeployment. It is very obvious where they are going, staring you right into your eyes!! Thanks for correction but my point was that in the UK he is of DEFENCE not DEFENSE-just trying to hold the line for Oxford English. H I Sutton 15 Mar 2022. He wants to get some skin in the game like the West has had the past 20 years. Former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev last week warned the United States that the hypersonic missiles would soon be close to NATO's shores. The conclusion was that Tiger stood the better chance due to her 6 turret being mostly electrically powered rather than hydraulic, like Blakes, so the presumption was shed be more reliable. Putin's plot to send warships off Ireland coast sparks 'deep concern True , I seem to remember one the OSINT Bunker pod cast guys saying if they start to move Air assets near the Ukraine border than probably the war is on , they have just done that. You act like the US has nothing to prepare for or be cautious with and we can throw our weight around like Panama in 1989. Their Intel also saying that they see no particular problem. At the end of the day it isnt going to be Britain v Russia, It will would be a NATO coalition. As they have plenty of gear around Ukraine already it makes sense that at least some of the 6 are bound for Tartus. See here for a complete list of exchanges and delays. 'Clearly the preferable path, clearly the most responsible path and the one that we would prefer, but there is also the path if Russia chooses to renew aggression, of conflict, confrontation and consequences for Russia,' Blinken said. Our SSNs will be busy chasing their SSNs, and so each RN surface vessel should be capable of offensive action. Putins Russia isnt anywhere nearly as big and powerful as the old Soviet military and couldnt go toe to toe with the US. Where do they and other countries replace it from? But what might a Russian attack look like and what could it seek to achieve? It does not stop Russia interfering in/invading Ukraine. The Armys flip ups on procurement have disengaged us from effective land ops in NATO context. I apologize if you took offense with my tone, its not my normal voice. I think so. A fleet of Russian warships and fighter jets, including the flagship aircraft carrier the Admiral Kuznetsov, has reached the North Sea and is headed for the English Channel, the UK's Ministry of . It will take them at least a decade to begin to get off Putins apron strings. The ships - which included a . why? As @RB has posted a lack of ASM is not high on the list of RNs priorities, whatever the reasons. Im not sure to be honest. But more significantly, the conclusion was the Belgrano would have been pummelled by the sheer weight of accurate fire that both Blake and Tiger could put down. Thomas C. D'Arcy, encountered a formation of seven Chinese and Russian warships in the Bering Sea last month. Ukraine has long accused Russia of having regular troops in the region, something Moscow denies. The White House corrected the off the cuff remark from the long press conference. No they didnt. Exact date yellow weather warning for snow and ice forecast to hit UK - will you be affected? 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No-one will be able to fight back in an all in war today. Our potential foes are very clever and will exploit gaps. That is the role of EFP troops in Poland and the Baltics show of support plus being a tripwire. 11:10 GMT 19 Jan 2022 And even 2 or 3 Astute boats would give any fleet a serious headache. Iv said all along all the US has to do is move over a few B52s B1s and B2 to UK on a routine training mission. Dont want to show my age but I remember reading about the Ropucha class as a schoolboy in the 80s. Zelensky thanked Blinken on Twitter after their meeting and said he was counting on stronger 'economic& financial' cooperation from the West. I have little faith when the top brass commit to building frigates that have no ASW or AsUW capabilities. Whats the Latin 50% because decimate is only 1 in 10 (10%). 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Germany doesnt need anything but some supply depots and rear HQs. Iran has already stepped up activities in the gulf region, recently attacked the UAE with drones from Yemen causing a few civilian casualties. As for the numbers unvaccinated, I know Putins trolls have been stoking that fire with conspiracy theories about the vaccines. This service is provided on News Group Newspapers' Limited's Standard Terms and Conditions in accordance with our Privacy & Cookie Policy. By teatime at least during the cold War the surface arm of the RN was given 7 days before lights out 6 days more than the RAF , only the Army faired better indefinitely if resupplied ? Video shared by the US Coast Guard of a Russian ship near the Hawaiian Islands. Defence chiefs have been keen to suggest new cyber and space capabilities will be major beneficiaries of any extra money for Defence. Munich - Officially, Vladimir Putin's goal in the Ukraine war is still to denazify the neighboring country. That was 4 years ago after the initial push against ISIS was over. Launch control was always in Moscow. He also works for the NHS. They attack a completely different country miles from that one? We have historically supported the underdog in the face of the invading bully. However, it does look like everybody is going to fight back. Time to send some Astutes to the Med for target practice! , updated Their problem then, as now, in terms of getting into the EU, was/is corruption. The ships, which can each carry up to 25 armoured personnel carriers, were deployed three days ago but it remains unclear if they are heading for Ukraine. US Secretary of State Antony Blinken today warnedRussia could attack Ukraine on 'very short notice'during a meeting with UkrainianPresident Volodymyr Zelensky at the American embassy in Kiev. We have Astute, which is the finest anti ship weapon in the world, along with NATO and allied nuclear boats, its enough toRead more . Ok we fought for repression of all subjugated Countries including the German folk who were under the heel of the Nazi jackboot. It can be logically assumed that KALIBR capability willRead more . Kongsberg have said that it will also be fitted to NSM. The ships have included a surfaced submarine, a destroyer, a corvette and a patrol ship along. return to the tri nations agreement of 1899!! The fighting units the Russians have deployed are professional soldiers not conscrips. There is currently another Russian flotilla heading for the Med, this time the flagship cruiser and escort from their Pacific Fleet. Royal Navy warship @HMSPortland is tracking Russian guided missile frigate Admiral Gorshkov and accompanying tanker Kama as they sail in international waters close to the UK. So easy to detect and evasion not impossible but also easy for CIWS to lock onto. "The Sun", "Sun", "Sun Online" are registered trademarks or trade names of News Group Newspapers Limited. Regardless of whatever you think about climate change, Greta whinberg ensures anyone over 25 gets irritated by her patronising childish ways. Under international law of the sea, innocent passage permits a vessel to pass through another state's territorial waters so long as this does not affect its security. Dont forget its got a great habit of hitting other random stuff like holiday homes or your best mates frigate. NOT, should have out an archer. I think now the Russians have thrown everything on the table NATO must do the same, no backing down. Certainly Ivan is getting very desperate now with the prop.! In a meaningful way I mean putting forces on the ground and in the air. Your logic makes no sense. Ukrainian Defense Ministry's latest intelligence assessment yesterday warned Russia had massed more than 127,000 troops along the border, together with a sea and air component that marked a 'full strength' force. Seizing southern Ukraine could cut Kyiv off from the coast and NATO's presence in the Black Sea, Melvin said, and could play well with Russian nationalists who see the area as the historic 'Novorossiya' lands or 'New Russia'. Sean, Where is this wharf in Australia? Didnt work out too well last time. Commander Philip Harper, Severn's commanding officer, said: "In very challenging conditions with rough weather, Severn and several other British and allied ships have spent 20 days ensuring that Russian transiting warships remain under our watchful eyes.". The weakness is in Biden. The Royal Navy said it is tracking the frigate and the tanker movements with an HMS Portland frigate, as it could carry what is considered to be one of the world's deadliest weapons. NOTAMs will clear seaways fast, whilst the Falklands demonstrated the potency of AsUW back then. In new training drills yesterday, three dozen Russian warplanes including Su-34 fighter-bombers, Su-25 attack aircraft and MiG-31 fighter-interceptors flew from airfields in Perm, Krasnoyarsk, Chelyabinsk and Sverdlovsk regions. He is testing NATO unity and Bidens willingness to risk the wrath of those voters while knowing any faltering step in those voters eyes be it commitment of weakness will bring back a Trump style Govt withRead more , I do wonder if another motivating factor could be something more base than that. As to the vaccine mandate, you are aware of the cross US/Canada border restrictions that came into force today that affect 50% or so drivers and the log jams in US west coast ports? Thanks Mark it just seems that the way that some outlets are reporting this ongoing story ,could in fact do more damage than good .As with some people on these threads ,that are goading eachother into what better weapons would do the most damage ,when the most destructive weapon is their Mouse/keyboard I know its just keyboard banter but my God theres some who really do want it too kick off. Western military analysts have suggested Russia cannot keep such troops deployed where they are indefinitely for financial and logistical reasons and would need to pull them back by summer. ", READ MORE: Russian doctors urge Putin to 'stop abusing' Alexei Navalny, Maintaining maritime situational awareness is a core task for #NATO Standing Maritime Groups, in close coordination with Allies. UK and French jets team up against simulated aerial threat, Britain, Italy and Japan merge combat aircraft projects. But what if Russias is using the same effect in reverse. There was the Orange revolution in Ukraine in 2004/5 that was the point that they started to orient themselves more with the West. 'The different scenarios for how exactly Russia might seek to persuade the West to meet its (security) demands by punishing Kyiv don't even necessarily include a land incursion,' he said. The U.S. Coast Guard cutter Kimball and its commander, Capt. Several Squadrons of both Interceptor and Ground Attack aircraft from various NATO nations with beefed up on-ground defences and anti-aircraft units. Clever move, and itll be Trumps fault the Russians invade on Bidens watch. Biden-BIG disappointment. I would have personally expected more from an accomplished person such as Merkel and her predecessors in making sure there is no reliance on anything from a potential enemy, but as the Germans can be smart, they can be equally daft. Ammunition depots. The combat readiness of your fighting units degrade, morale becomes a problem and your armour becomes less effective as maintaince for war becomes a problem. Therefore in theory at least for the narrowest Dover-Calais area we could do that. The lack of AsUW is a gamble that could prove catastrophic, as bad as the lack of anti-tank weaponry given to the BEF. "The U.S. Coast Guard is currently monitoring the Russian . 'Russia invaded territory in the Crimea, ginned up a conflict in eastern Ukraine, and has systematically sought to undermine and divide Ukraines democracy,' Blinken said. it was not to long ago that a few Russian soldiers died in a Russian barracks collapse, dont believe your own hype, and considering the Ukraine people are fighting for its independence, where they are stationed does not matter. Regime change? Thanks for that. https://www.janes.com/defence-news/naval-weapons/latest/turkish-navy-commissions-first-intelligence-gathering-ship. Whether hell succeed with his military distraction where General Galtieri failed with this strategy is open to question. Severn was also on patrol as the Vice-Admiral Kulakov sailed through the Channel. As far as Im aware there isnt any part of the channel that is not either British or French waters. Published: 8:51 ET, Jan 24 2023 A RUSSIAN warship armed with "unstoppable" hypersonic missiles is sailing towards the US coast in a show of strength, reports claim. Kyiv might also be provoked into attacking by the separatists who could then ask Russia to send troops to help, he said. If anybody wants to do a deep dive into the political corruption the FBI has to tackle, I recommend bookmarking/following ericgarland on Twitter. . During the last 2 years lots of HGV drivers left the profession, as happens every year. Locally known as the UK Minister of Defence. Also most of that Russian buildup is into barracks so not suffering. Why would Poles help Ukrainians? Russia seized and annexed the Crimea peninsula from Ukraine in 2014 and considers areas around its coast to be Russian waters. How does that relate to this story? Lots of disinformation out there I dont understand how Trump takes no blame on either side of the Atlantic for signing the peace deal with the Taliban of all groups but Biden blamed on this board with no push back. I really dont disagree with you. Once there they re establish the picture. A Slava Class cruiser isnt going to be worried by any Wildcat, whilst ROEs mean that by the time Astutes have surfaced to receive comms the shooting has started and finished. Irish defence forces have been monitoring the activity of Russian warships that on Tuesday made a U-turn off the country's coast. And therein lies the fate of the world!! By Sam Greenhill Chief Reporter for the Daily Mail. Britain was unexpectedly embroiled in a diplomatic and military dispute with Russia on Wednesday after Royal Navy destroyer HMS Defender briefly sailed through territorial waters off the coast. "These aircraft posed no immediate threat to HMS Defender, but some of these manoeuvres were neither safe nor professional," Britain's Wallace said. Pretty much what their President told them on the TV a couple of days ago. So we should of ordered NSM after all, as interim? Under USSR the orders would come from Moscow but the big red button was at the command post for each group of silos in Ukraine. What you are saying is if the US had pre-positioned a couple thousand troops in Ukraine, it wouldve prevented Putin from planning and then sending 100,000+ troops to the border along with simultaneous exercises across all their armed forces around the globe including this one: https://www.thejournal.ie/russia-missile-test-south-west-coast-ireland-5660829-Jan2022/. Military analysts said even if it overwhelmed Ukraine's army, which is half the size of its own, Russia could face guerrilla-type resistance, making it hard to hold on to captured territory. The . Six Russian landing ships have sailed past Britain sparking speculation they are bound for an impending 'full-scale invasion' of Ukraine - as Kiev warns President Putin has 'nearly completed' the build-up of troops along the border. Published. The Black Sea, which Russia uses to project its power in the Mediterranean, has for centuries been a flashpoint between Russia and its competitors such as Turkey, France, Britain and the United States. With 4 missiles in each bay of an F-35 (like the 1000lb GBU fits into), says that the warhead cant be that big, say like a Hellfire or Brimstone around 15kg. George has a degree in Cyber Security from Glasgow Caledonian University and has a keen interest in naval and cyber security matters and has appeared on national radio and television to discuss current events. The Russian strongman will be sending warships within Ireland's maritime economic zone - around 240km off the southwest cost of Ireland. NSM like Harpoon has a range that means it flies way over the horizon. Six Russian ships go past UK sparking fears they are going to Ukraine Without ASuW the RN is badly exposed, and its criminal negligence sending sailors into a warzone without ability to take offensive action. This stuff was going on long before sites like this were around to report it in the public domain. They have nothing to match it. Later versions have much better electronics and sensors developed with Israel. Correction. Hope you dont mind but Ive sent your comment to HQ, should be worth a raise. Indeed you wouldnt need ships to eliminate those ducks as you wouldnt in the Dardanelles if they ever got in a pickle there either as Britain found out before the Gallipoli campaign became a hasty if equally ill fated alternative. A RUSSIAN warship armed with "unstoppable" hypersonic missiles is sailing towards the US coast in a show of strength, reports claim. Several Latvians were arrested when they returned from fighting in the Ukraine they had been on the Russian side! Comms on a dived Astute very limited. And hand wash Plane Cleaning popping up everywhere? We have got troops there, albeit only a small number in a training and advisory role still complicates the plot for Putin. the Poles keep shtum about their involvement, unlike the Balts who declare it openly. Some showed messages saying:'Be afraid and expect the worst.'. 'The current deployments are versatile. Australia just signed an agreement with UK Defense minister to dedicate Wharf and logistics to readily accommodate Royal Navy ships basing them selves there . U.S. officials have said Russia might attack Ukraine as early as this month when the ground will be harder, making it easier for tanks and other armour to move swiftly. Also Congress now has the Trump White House documents related to Jan 6. Those deliveries are ongoing, and there are more scheduled in the coming weeks.. The region has been on a knife-edge since the end of last year when Moscow moved as many as 100,000 troops, as well as tanks and missiles, close to the border. At least that is how Putin would see it. It builds up its arsenal in one location to make the world think thats the location they are going to attack. Im for one are hoping cool heads prevail. Russian warship with 'unstoppable' 7,000mph hypersonic missiles 'sails More info. Two weeks ago nearly a dozen warships and combat aircraft from Russia's Northern, Baltic and Black Sea fleets gave a "show of force in the waters off the British and Irish coasts" General . The N Koreans are starving again. faster working shipyards would help. I think you overestimated Russias economy Ivan , its smaller than that nutty economy of Italys lol. Do you have a link on that drawdown, havent seen that comment before? Is not the opposite more true? So were Western economies corrupt, going back in time. Clearly I could be wrong on this. NSM is able to navigate by GPS, inertial and terrain reference systems. Preliminary analysis of the vessels suggests 3 groups. It said: "The crew of the frigate 'Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Gorshkov' conducted an air defense exercise in the Norwegian Sea. Yes China has been throwing money at increasing the capabilities and sheer size of its military in it race to become the worlds dominant hyper-power. George Allison LONDON, June 24 (Reuters) - Russia warned Britain on Thursday that it would bomb British naval vessels in the Black Sea if there were any further provocative actions by the British navy off the coast of Russia-annexed Crimea. Invasion of a NATO state or even probably Sweden Im sure would. More of your disinfo to correct here the US spends as much as the next 11 biggest spenders combined on defense nowadays not the rest of the world. Leading to our militaries being optimised for fighting second rate foes. A 4 ship of F35s could put 36 missiles into the target area from over 100km away with the advantage of stealth. But they need to be postured in way that showed the West meant business. "These are Ukrainian waters and it was entirely right to use them to go from A to B," Johnson said. 'Russia is stopped when it is stopped, not when Putin decided that he achieved enough.'. Well they didnt of course and no sympathy was deserved . It seems a good time to propose it in the commons. A capability upgrade as and when needed, might well happen. Hi mate. You are just gaslighting everyone Douglas and sowing division because you cant admit you are wrong: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/01/19/statement-from-press-secretary-jen-psaki-on-russian-aggression-towards-ukraine/, Thanks Douglas. We all have opinions and may not always agree but nice to keep things civilised. Build the strongest argument relying on authoritative content, attorney-editor expertise, and industry defining technology. 'We are asking for more, and we are expecting to have more,' Mr Prystaiko told BBC Radio 4's Today programme. Protect their own borders through forward defence. And it will be forthcoming if I am wrong as I hope yours will be in reverse. Are Putins dirty secrets going to be revealed? I think you have hit the nail on the head. The US Coast Guard in Alaska came across Russian and Chinese vessels on an ordinary patrol earlier this month, the agency has said. The group thinkers on here have no idea of the N2 capabilities of RU and without AsUW the RN is in danger of being decimated before tea time. Again, your assessment that putting 2,000 US troops into Ukraine before the status quo has changed, would not have detered 100,000+ troops amassing on the border or the worldwideRead more . Defence Forces monitoring Russian warships acting unusually off Irish 'It is the choice of President Putin and the Russians to make, whether they are going to suffer severe economic consequences or not.'. https://www.army-technology.com/projects/land-based-future-local-area-air-defence-system-flaads-land/, Is Russia just grandstanding in some effort to remove the economic sanctions? It seems Not! Broker a deal to have Russian military bases in their country. Something will give as you cannot maintain an army at this sort of readiness indefinitely. General Sir Nick Carter delivering the annual Royal United Services Institute lecture. Ireland tells Russia live-fire naval exercise is 'not welcome' For other inquiries, Contact Us. The NATO Allied Maritime Command is "closely monitoring" Russian frigate Admiral Gorshkov, it said in a tweet with a photo of the warship. Is Harpoon totally ineffective against Russian ships or just a bit old? 'Should Russia invade, we will provide additional defensive equipment to Ukrainians.'. I am very much older than 25 and I find her far more grown up than most actual grown ups. [1/6]British Royal Navy's Type 45 destroyer HMS Defender is docked in the Black Sea port of Odessa, Ukraine June 18, 2021. He really wants to install a pro-Russian government in Kiev and to have independence for theRead more .
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