It will 'deepen' the colour you see (ie. Was a bit of a risky choice, went with a pretty unusual/bold extra wide 5" wide pattern and I think it turned out well. After reading on the website about this particular water-based finish, I learned that while it might dry clear, it leaves an amber color tone--just what I did not want. Which one did you end up going with? its been so long since I posted - Id have to read through my old posts to recall the sealer we used. Im very happy with them and they are exactly the look I wanted. Getting gloomy from cool gray? There are some lap lines on the floors from the sealer. It is my understanding that these Bona products are tricky to apply. Sie knnen nicht notwendige Cookies ber Einstellungen verwalten ablehnen. If so, they are normal surface marking, nothing to worry about. Is there a really hidden section (you only need about 1 inch square) that you don't mind possibly damaging? WebBona DriFast Stain mix of White and Grey with two coats of Bona NaturalSeal and finished off with Mega ONE on this beautiful floor by Beyond The Grain Custom Design with Territory Manager, Jeff Offredo, on site. I do have a lot of experience with these stones because I own a Granite, Quartz and Quartzite company. They just came out with the same wood thats 1/8 inch thinner as an option. and I wish we had another layer of protection. Take the time to try all of the sample combinations. My vanity with Corian and porcelain sink. Any help appreciated! @SJ McCarthy @mtpo I did hire an installer who installed my floor and was supposed to refinish it. It still should not come off. I told the contractor, if he could remove the first-coat finish, I would purchase the right finish for him to use. Je peux rejeter les cookies non essentiels en cliquant sur Grer mes prfrences . If you have 3000sf then the $2500 upgrade is nothing. The reason: they turn orange. Classic seal gave a deeper color but I found it to be too yellow. Not sure if this is helpful but attached are picks of recently completed white oak with Bona natural seal followed by Bona traffic HD extra matte finish. Over the years, theres been a lot of things Ive cut costs on, but I feel it doesnt pay to skimp on a major feature of my new house that should last for a very long time. Thanks for taking the time to write all that! Installing an 8" plank with full spread glue is EXPENSIVE (the labour alone is intense). It has been a nightmare trying to find this look in my area. So it looks like I must know what product I am likely to use before I can even find a pro.So I am experimenting on my own, trying to narrow down the options. The main thing to worry about when it comes to Quartzite is if it is actually a true Quartzite. Good luck! They should be able to get the job done for you. This helps our clients make up their minds before doing the whole floor. WebOld worn white oak floors get a makover with Provincial stain to achieve a warm medium toned brown. But they did just complete a project with Bona NordicSeal. You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. Can a bathroom door swing out instead of in? My guess would be red oak since they have gone more orange. My fear was that a lower quality finish would yellow or amber the wood. 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We peeked through the windows and the floors are covered with brown paper. I hope I get into the house before any subcontractors mess them up again! Sigh. Granite is an igneous rock also formed from extreme heat and pressure. If, you want a raw pale look. Yes. It is the way it is normally done. Are You Gutsy Enough to Paint Your Floor White? Would love to hear from anyone who has sampled these Sealers and what they thought. I would have loved to find a simpler, cheaper, regular old stain, but they just don't give me the same look I'm trying to achieve. G&S generally makes great comments and has solid analysis but in this case he assumed something not in evidence and commented based on that. Our cabinet maker will be finishing them, not us. Ive read quite a few different comments on all 3 and some seem conflicting. It's a installer issue. @Lisa Pearen it would help with identification if you post photos. NO true Quartzite will etch. We ended up using one coat of Bona natural sealer and two coats of HD matte on the floors. Of the Bona sealers, NordicSeal looks to white to me and AmberSeal - well the name says it all, trying to stay away from the amber look. BTW, we used Corian old fashioned solid surface Corian in our kitchen and in 2 bathrooms. ISO something similar to Hallmark Alta Vista "Malibu" in urethane, Questions about chemicals in vinyl install - foul odor, health probs. We love our floors! 2 coats of Nordic seal & 2 coats of traffic HD ? How should I adjust these home plans to save $ or improve the layout. The light white washing will give you the raw look. Get the third coat of sealer. WebBona Traffic HD Anti Slip Satin Water-Based Wood Floor Finish - 1 Gallon BKWBTRAFFICHDANTISLIPSATING01 $153.58 Unit Size: 1 Availability: In Stock Add To List Add To Cart Bona Domo Satin-Matte Water-Based Wood Floor Finish - 1 Gallon BKWBDOMOSATIN-MATTEG01 $64.99 Unit Size: 1 Availability: In Stock Add To List If, Bona Mega is your budget. Streetshoe by basics + their stain line. Nice, eh?! These will give you the raw look, which prints tend to show up on. They are *very* hard, and you will be hard pressed to find a coating that stands up to them), but it would tell you that the floor coating appears to at least be behaving. Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? Im struggling with the same issue thanks! A VERY trchnichally difgicukt finish yonachieve. Yes they can be 'walked on' after 3 daysbut moving furniture in is not ideal until 5 days have passed. Photos would be helpful. They are one of my very favorite things in my (soon to be) new house. Just wondering if 2 coats of the Traffic HD is enough or should I add a 3rd coat of the finish even in rooms that arent used as heavily? @Renee Czeryba, my advice: when you test put sealer and finish on top to see how it is really going to look. If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. I also have some design software that may help with your need. The FASTEST curing water based products are Bona Traffic HD and Loba 2K Supra AT. I have a dog that has an occasional accident. When he did the sample with a white stain (Duraseal) and my red oak floor turned pink, I stopped the work and started searching for a new guy. He told me that the floor would look the same, which was obviously a lie. The 'oil based' finishes that base costs of a finish allow 45 MINUTES of wet edge. (Plus, the Rubio, the longer it sat there, the more tannins it pulled.) The correct answer should be "nothing at all". I prefer to see three coats of finishbut if you MUST save money while still using Traffic HD then you can go down to two coats. My contractor recommended leaving it natural and using a Bona Mega finish which was supposed to dry clear. From all Ive read, it seems Bona Traffic HD is the way to go on the finish coats. It looks like you have SOLID 5" (that ranks as wide plank = glue assist) White Oak. One coat application to saturation, or (for best results apply 2nd coat 'wet on wet') Resistant to algae, lichen and staining. Find the right local pro on Houzz to kickstart your project. Think about going stylishly dark instead, The international shows designers bring the focus back to the craftsmanship and luxurious materials of the 1920s, See why an engineered wood floor could be your best choice (and no one will know but you), Gleaming wood floors are a thing of beauty. 1 coat in the morning and 1 coat in the afternoon. Please convince me not to settle with maple. I dont recall the price of the lumber / the price our builder charged us (he ordered it on his account). If they are not able to confirm to you what material it is, then look elsewhere for your countertop fabrication. Thanks so much! What color are your cabinets and what color Corian did you go with? It honestly looks just like our white oak (unstained, natural) - I wish I could leave it without sealer etc. Emily Henderson has a white metal railing in her split level home that is pretty gorgeous and widely photographed. The cost is nothing compared to the durability it will give. True Quartzite is very dense and many are not prone to staining. what made you decide to go with natural. I am interested to Nordic seal on my project as well. I think they are some discussions on houzz regarding that. I originally wanted a chocolate color but realized I like more contrast between floor and furnishings than a mid tone would give me. I could not get dog drool, LOLwe also scratched it and our current floors (factory oil urethane) with tips of a scissor to compare. As G & S states, the sealers will not AMBER over time (as in get DARKER) but the IntenseSeal and the ClassicSeal will offer SOME tan/yellow. First - The second pic you gave looks really weird. No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. Give it a light sanding after it dries with 220 or 240 grit sandpaper. Thanks. and any photos would be most appreciated I like the bona nordic white look in the 2nd photo (thats covering about 20 wood squares) is that the semi-gloss Loba, (or perhaps raw, freshly sanded parquet - that is the look i'm going for my wood finger parquet, lightened / whitewashed with the red/yellow/ambering removed and the seal to be almost matte. I still love the white oak but maybe with less wood cabinets maple will be ok. @mtpo did you ever post final pictures of your floor? My husband and I had 5" white oak floors installed and we are like the look of one coat of Bona Nordic Seal and two coats of satin water based polyurethane on our floors. Or is Minwax and Duraseal the same thing? The refinisher used the 'trendy' finish that s/he THOUGHT you wanted to see. Why would you use Bona Nordic Seal (Bona productobviously) and then go with LOBA??? The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. YesBona Traffic HD is MUCH more expensive than over-the-counter stuff. Past techniques to achieve a natural floor look relied on harsh chemicals like bleach, two-part peroxide-based strippers or oxalic acid. See the before and afters and why we chose this color. Im torn between satin and matte, We didn't move in yet so I cannot comment on it . This was such a great informative thread. @mtpo your floors are SO beautiful, do you know where they were ordered from and cost per sq ft? You have a special floor. I completely understand the desire to keep it open between the kitchen and lower level because you want to keep the sight lines and feeling--but perhaps you should just "try" closing it off and see how it feels. @tkgriff I love your floors and am thinking about going for much the same look! I prefer to see 3 coats of the finishbut the Bona sealants are designed to be 'film building' sealants so they will add to the performance. WebSome 5 white oak with Bona Natural Seal and Hd traffic extra matte. It may come in other thicknesses too. My stomach-- which had been in a knot for a year due to indecision relaxed. That means you relate clean with shiny. Hey Merrilyn, looks like we are in the same boat. , So your final finish was 1 coat of Nordic Seal with 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin? I will mention some Quartzites have a higher level of porosity and should be sealed regularly. He had 15 years of experience doing only floors and was highly recommended to me. Every client after that training will pay extra for his/her expertise. Make warm gray your new go-to neutral, Find the right local pro for your project, Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, https://sprucingupmamahood.com/provenza-vinyl-flooring-review/, 5 Essential Moves for Classic Scandi Style, Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, White Cabinets Remain at the Top of Kitchen Wish Lists, Natures Color Wisdom: Lessons on White From the Great Outdoors, What to Know About Engineered Wood Floors, Maison & Objet: Art Deco and a Return to Elegance, Color of the Week: Decorating With Warm Gray. Thanks for sharing these pictures - they look great! Had my red oak floors done in weathered oak and they are still simply too pink. Our contractor unfortunately was in a hurry so we didnt test many potential finishes. Did G & S need to tell me, Well see how long this finish lasts? No. Did 4 coats of nordic and 3 traffic hd on 1 dollar a sq foot utility 4 inch white oak but some was red oak as well but still my dog likes it. Dark Hardwood Floors vs. Light Hardwood Floors? We have one big space kitchen, then dining area with doors to exterior, then the family room. And it is taking me some time to get used to a matte floor. Hi! Any suggestions on deciding one over the other? I wish I had the link, but there are others that used a combination of stains with weathered oak as the base and it is beautiful as well. WebAn icon used to represent a menu that can be toggled by interacting with this icon. Dear Doane, A well established hardwood flooring company (a "ma and pa" type store) will have the big machines to get the product off of your floor. Being able to apply multiple coats in a day, depends on the square footage of the project. Bona Traffic HD is 10 times EASIER to find (but a snick harder to work with). I also read you dont want to go too thin. Okay we have decided to go with Bona Traffic HD in extra matte! I screwed that up a few times. We went with that because the sample board looked exactly like the bare sanded wood, which is what we wanted. I'm sorry but this finish is not "salvageable". There are a couple places where either a dogs nail or something created a tiny gouge all the way through to the wood - so the Bona is not impermeable. They look closer to the raw wood tone. I should add that I planned to use Bona Traffic HD finish as well since I read how durable it is and how it goes on clear without yellowing the wood. It shouldn't if it's in good shape, but don't know what shape it's in, so figure i'd warn you. How much should I expect the Traffic HD to change the color? What is your installer recommending? Red oak floors look horrible, help with light stain colors needed! I still hope to get my dream kitchen. Thank you so much! They have little to no chemical resistance. @Ryan Danielson what did you end up going with? I didnt want to pull up the protective paper but you can see the floor a little better in this photo. But maybe it is just old and scratched over the years? Thank you for your feedback. Fortunately, the installer is sending them back to the lumberyard to be replaced. 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Really not read much about IntenSeal? We are having the same dilemma with our cabinets. I would say he under bid the job and was pushing himself to finish (he rushed the stainwhich is why it is inconsistent) so that he could move on and make money on another job. And the Nordic seal was beautiful but it was a little cold and it didnt look as good next to a warmer paint color we plan to use. WebWhite oak refinish- Bona NaturalSeal. Bona Natural Seal on the top, Bona Nordic Seal on the bottom. They apply the product too thin and it sets up quicker than recommended. Show me your white oak floors w duraseal country white or Bona white! If you want a bit of "yellow depth" to the floor, then work with an oil modified. The NaturalSeal will offer the closest to the 'raw look' you are after. I'm sorry you felt diminished. I have read through almost every post here looking to see how to get the most natural finish without yellowing. While I am not happy that we are all having this issue - I am somewhat relived to see that I am actulally not losing my mind that this look should be achievable in some fashion . The one that Bona advertizes as clear made our wood look a tiny bit orange. You either pay the piper todayor you pay a couple more pipers in 15 yearsThe choice is yours. ! Is this permissible to use on cabinets. WebBona NordicSeal is a waterborne sanding sealer that is formulated to provide a green alternative to a whitewashed floor without the use of caustic materials such as bleach. Stand up to the effects of UV on the oak over time, 3. I am hoping this Sherwin Williams product won't yellow over time. They just don't get any DARKER over time. That's like painting a master piece with 10 minutes on the clock. Also hope this helps .. colors hard to see on monitor, I tested classic seal, white stain and Nordic seal as well. We tried a few Duraseal stains on samples and none of them were right. The lowest level of gloss I suggest to 'clean-shiny' person is semi-gloss. You want someone fully trained in the art of the 2-component (2K) water based system. Do not use the following Bona naturale, Loba invisible, pearl or pure For the top coat. If you wanted a specific COLOUR range (but didn't say anything about the look of raw wood) then the finisher brought what s/he sees people RIGHT NOW wanting (because it is trendy). I did a lot of research and planned to try Bona NaturalSeal, Bona ClassicSeal and Bona NordicSeal on this round of samples. If you search my other discussions on this site, youll see how I flip-flopped so many times Corian, stainless, Neolith, D e k t o n, Quartz, wood (for the island top) and finally back to Corian. I did a larger sample of Unico smoke, covered with their Titan (goes on with a roller) and tested it with salty water, red wine and vinegar. The contractor has also suggested one coat of Loba 2K Supra on top. Rift sawn white oak like we are referencing is not common at all in our location. It could be as low as $2/sf. Thank you for posting a picture! Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. 1 coat seal and 2 coats finish. We have decided to go with a mix of white and light wood for the cabinets. A friend of mine had her red oak floors sanded and bleached to get the pink out and then sealed them. I'd say I send back at least 20 bundles a year that are not true Quartzites even though they are passed off to me as such. Just stick with Bona Traffic HD in a satin and you will be fine. I might use the Baro for my cabinetsor the Pallman's Natural. Although, it can be used as a stand alone sealer. I found a highly recommended company that has experience with placing wood floors in the most humid environments Plenty of high-end homes have wood floors here so someone has to do it & do it well- just find "that" guy! However, I failed to visualize the tan natural against the grey bathroom tile. Another thread I found talks about Rubio mono coat. I always keep at least 100 bundles of stone in stock that I personally hand pick so I purchase thousands of slabs a year. We have just received a couple samples however and they haven't had the same look as some of the inspiration picture. Just found out distributors only sale in gallon sizeso its not going to be an option for metoo expensive to pay for gallons in seal and finish just to test it. Ahhhh. The floor guys made custom floor vents. Just seemed so right. I knew this was IT. are you happy with it 2+ years later (and is it holding up well with food/oil stains etc) please share any details, like if you had 2 or 3 coats. Erfahren Sie hierzu mehr in der Houzz Cookie-Richtlinie. It was applied Saturday morning. And it is taking me some time to get used to a matte floor. I hope some of this information is helpful. Look out for inexperience. They can use a big machine with a screening pad to get up most of that gunk. He said my sister was lucky ((so far) he said its really not supposed to be used for countertops. WebBona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. But, my husband and I are closer in agreement. It won't tell you what caused the scratching (glass particles in sand is the usual culprit. WebHealthsmart: 640-8174-1900HS, Healthsmart - 640-8174-1900HS - HealthSmart Steel Shoe Horn 24", White, HealthSmart Steel Shoe Horn 24" L, White, Epoxy-coated Steel Heres a pic kitchen isnt finished yet but should give you an idea, Blizzard fierce or butter soft, white can highlight shapes, unify a room and perform miracles on the cheap, Avoid going too traditional and too clean by introducing an off-white palette that brings a touch of warmth and elegance, From silvery ash to honey blonde or chalk white, light-toned floors hold the key to the pared-back simplicity of Scandinavian style, Rustic touches from nature embellish the white-and-wood palette in this remodeled house in Denmark, White too bright in your kitchen? My guess would be red oak since they have gone more orange. Just about the time I had to FINALLY make a decision (about a year later than when I started due to the architects goof ups and COVID shut downs), the Corian fabricator sent me a couple 4x4 samples of Glacier White. Very patient. Milesi or Renner, etc etc. Loba in any of its water based formats (low gloss keeps it from looking "finished") options will do exactly what you want. Bona Traffic (original) is two steps up from Mega. Do you know if the Milesi you ordered includes sealer to stop tannin bleed and a UV filter? We used 1 coat Bona Nordic and 2 coats Traffic HD in Satin. Site finish your floors with Rubio monocoat and get exactly what you want. Many people would give their eyeteeth for floors of that quality. If you look for darker colors, you will see fewer color shades in the wood planks. We also added the clerestory windows like you did. Once you and your professional shake hands and write a contract that's when they come in and start the job. (The Classic has less of a haze.) He did know his stains and how it would finishI will give him that. These were my red oak in a medium stain and you can definitely see the red undertone: My SIL did a darker stain on her floors and she says the cleaning is brutal. I absolutely love the floors. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. One more thing, the rooms Ive put this flooring in are the master bedroom, guest bedroom and an office, so no heavily trafficked areas. The matte helps scratches blend. I think we can make Traffic HD work in our budget if we hold off on a few things and I can convince my husband. And it does NOT cause amberingbut the Mega does. I just got samples and have found mixing the white with mist gives almost an exact color for unfinished white oak. The edge is not as nicely finished as the Corian. They do their own fuming there I found it interesting to learn about that too. We went with the Bona Nordic and Traffic HD. My builder said hed work with them even though he never had before and I had several conversations with them. Floors are already sitting in the new house acclimating and I know that I am not cut out for the oil finish.). The use of water based is VASTLY different from oil based. I wish I could do it myself or delete the rude and negative comments. If so, they are normal surface marking, nothing to worry about. A quick scan of my question and then a quick scan of your answer simply lead G & S to believe all 3 coats were put down same day.which happens more than you really want to know. BTW after the fabricator installed the countertops (and carefully covered them to protect them), other contractors uncovered them and used them as a work bench and scratched them up - a lot! Nora are you installing tower or Windsor? Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? Carly, we are trying to decide between Bona Classic Seal or Natural Seal? My question to tcrp6566 is did you use a sealer first? It was applied Saturday morning.". Hi thanks in advance for your help We are having white oak installed and finished on site. @Hughey do you know what process for bleaching? We will use 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD on top of the sealer. - I got the curved 1/4 backsplash (if you can call that a backsplash). My installer did 2 coats of Nordic Seal today. did you have a contract or at least an email stating you wanted white oak? It has come out very well. Our hardwood installer and contractor use DuraSeal products often and Bona Mega. Yeah, thats what I am realizing. Bona is designed to be 'hot coated' that is to say it does BEST when coat 1 and coat 2 (like sealant and then 1st coat of finish) come in quick succession (less than 24 hours but nothing less than the 'minimum time between coats'). Also did the installer abrade between the seal & finish coats? Also, how many coats of sealer did you use? Dry finish. There are some lap lines on the floors from the sealer. I've tested their smoke reactive and their Baro reactive Both can be adjusted with water or their "clear" so that you can get varying tones. @Bongo. WebApplication of the sealer will alter the chemical structure of the porous sandstone or natural stone providing a excellent water repellent and stain resistant surface. Please hire someone first before asking them to put down 'colour patches'. We have 4 inch white oak installed, but I was reading through your post and have no clue where they are from. The least porous Quartzites are actually called crystalline Quartzites. AhemRight??? My plan was boba natural seal plus 3 coats HD extra matte, but I didnt know about a next final step, please provide detail/product for final sealant step.
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