Have you had a similar experience dating or marrying into another culture? Even being an Egyptian doesn't help as much :D, I read your post and enjoyed every word of it, i am an Egyptian myself and as you have described, our society culture would sound strange to a stranger for the first time, i am glad it all worked out fine for all parties at the end. This is insightful. Christian and Jewish men, on the other hand, are not required by their faiths to love or respect Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) or the traditions of Islam. Great post! and by the way not all the familes says no dating before engagements . The conflicts have died. Also are Lebanese parents like Egyptian parents? Her father is one of the most respectable men I have ever met, and never once has pressured me into a slew of interview questions about my life and fiances. Login I must say though that, in my situation, it was better to be of NO religion and agnostic in attitude, than be a die-hard christian who will not budge on his beliefs. If the man does not wish to raise his children as Christians/Jews, or does not care much about religion one way or the other, then she might ask herself why she would marry someone like that, unless of course, she is of the same mind. Ive only just started to fear the passing of time. It sounds really harsh to have to decide after such a short time. If anyone knows her, I would love to have her contact details. cheers. A non-Muslim man is in a position to enforce his will upon a Muslim wife. I'm still negotiating with my wife (albeit extremely unsuccessfully) for her to accept that a Brazilian, an Italian, a German and perhaps a French girlfriend would be a huge boost to my language skills. What are the most essential travel phrases. What does term of endearment mean? These terms are for others' brother/sister, relatively young men . I do not believe he is using me for green card. She just mentioned recently she's getting divorced and I congratulated her. Although this frustration is a huge motivator for me to reach the next level of competency. Hi Donovan, I'm from Egypt .. and all that are right , totally right and normal . but if you are serious about the relationship you can go back when you ready,as soon as possible of course, when they say its over, its NOT over yet until you gave up. besides he wouldnt be happy if he knew i am writing this article! We never attended church. I really love how you narrowed it down to bits and pieces with such accuracy like youre an actual citizen. Pet 11. I knew no Arabic before meeting my wife. I went through a very similar one.My ex boyfriend is deaf, I am hearing, and I was learning sign language when I met him. I guess you have heard this Arabic saying before " " means if there isn't different tastes so goods won't be sold.so every society have it's characteristics, negative and positive sides and it's you who decide whether it is suitable for you or not. It can mean "life" and also "loved one", "darling", etc. I am also a liberal, though from an American perspective of course. Though I do see scarfs as such a beautiful thing, and Middle Eastern women are an exemplification of beauty. In what sense can we then expect the children to be brought up on the faith? Beautiful right? However, the religion of Islam came to destroy all these habits, and most people do not practice what they preach. Another thing to be said is what you've noticed is completely the opposite of the Islamic instructions , Islam instructs people to get married as a young , and not to look to the wealth or beauty , It's ironic that early muslims used dates as dowry while now even lots of gold wouldn't be enough . However, when we talk about women, and describe one using beautiful as an adjective, it could mean either her looks or how good of a person she is. posted by HopperFan at 10:43 PM on March 30, 2009. Marriage/relationships based on blind-folded passion alone starts with a limp and eventually keels over. He actually did not want me to move to America and asked me if I could live in Algeria with him. Follows hard-to-please Aurora looking for love and her daughter's family problems. Mi chiquitn (mee chee-kee-teen/teen-ah) My little one. falling in love) = love in the sense of lust or desire (i.e. This now at least refers to the Jews and Christians and it could refer to other communities as well who are based on a scriptural faith, as opposed to lets say primal religions that do not necessarily follow what Muslims would deem to be a revealed scripture such, as the Old and New Testaments. I still love my family because honestly under all the control they display because of fear or whatever, I know they mean will. He asks: This is one of my favorites and a perfect way to give a Lord of the Rings reference! Well, "ra" may be Tahitian for "sun," but it is not Ancient Egyptian." So you can't just pop in "habibi/habibti" into an online hieroglyph converter and get anything really useful. So we writted each other on linkedin about our jobs and duties, later asked me for my whatsapp and all started. I mean in western society you can get married today the you are divorced tomorrow. It should give you some idea of whats usually expected in Egyptian society if you ever meet the man or woman of your dreams. Hopefully it's better late than never! Terms of Endearment - 15. tenshi_no_wakemae. In this section, find out everything you need to know about visiting the Australian Museum, how to get here and the extraordinary exhibitions on display. I'm an Applied Linguistics graduate, teacher and translator with a passion for language learning (especially Arabic). You know all the words to this term now! In any country, in any part of the world, you will encounter assholes. n let me tell u tht its so true tht egyptian and arab girls all think of money, gold n shit. Two-handled vessel for storing oil or wine. This is probably me thinking too much. It is a good read, but it does not reflect ALL Egyptians. I was lucky because I live in a country where I can be a strong, independent woman without as many consequences as I would face in Egypt.BUT IT WAS STILL SO DIFFICULT. Mi rey / Mi reina . Rouhi and Hayati should only be used in romantic contexts only. Hahaha! Omg! For the rest, read this for an explanation.). This guide is meant to help you with Arabic terms related to love, and the suitable ways you can use each of them. I must agree with number 7 and 12. My parents are conservative, her parents are liberal. = love in the sense of amiability or companionship (i.e. And few of them have a happy ending. Beginning with Emma's marriage, Aurora shows how difficult and loving she can be. They just looked at me for a second and then said, "it doesn't matter if we want to or not We have to marry a Muslim guy.". Wow. With other things, I think u fell for a young girls who couldn't really grasp the cultural differences and couldn't handle them. This means anyone can use (ae in | sweetheart) with their partner or when referring to someone's partner. And yes you are marrying not just one girl but a bunch of idiots! We call those the ones with weak faith. I wanted to keep my egyptian girlfriend as a guest in a hotel but they rejected it right away and said rooms cannot be shared..it was equally hard for me to not be around since I met her after 6 long years..any of you guys know a hotel where they wouldnt mind? I know of a foreign man British in Egypt who has been having a 5 year relationship with an Egyptian girl who is now 25. Lesson learned: Not that Id ever seek a relationship just to improve my language skills but it really does take fluency to a whole new level. The differences of languages and cultures normally make a relation more interesting, and I believe many of the people reading and writing here agree that multicultural relations and marriages are the one to be always more common in future. ), or be a sweet and simple term of endearment. I love being a part of her very close and personal family. Below are all possible answers to this clue ordered by its rank. Translucent, usually white, form of gypsum carved into ornaments and pots. *You have to give her all your money" wealth" or you will accused by being selfish stingy man. I suppose its the materialistic benefits he has also set her up in business. because that may cause her a lot of problems if this photo fell into the wrong hands, (remember the prostitute part? Literally: what is this moon! These texts were written on walls, coffins, statues or papyri. The short answer: Though this word was used in the 1500s to refer to sheep sounds, today bae is used as a term of endearment, often referring to your boyfriend or girlfriend. In cases where two or more answers are displayed, the last one is the most recent. Through Umm Kulthums words from one of her eternal classics and one of my all time favorites, called Enta Omri, All that I once saw before my eyes saw you. i loved him like no one ever loved before hahah, i had to discover that he used my company to make his Arabic more better , although i can talk in English better than him. Lesson learned: Egypt is very conservative even though rules are often broken. Men shouldn't either but because the obstacle of 'whose religion the future kid will take' is solved (since he always takes the father's religion) they go easy on that one. bamoot feek / feeki ( ): Literally translates as Im dying in you. It simply means my love or my darling. Oh by the way she can speak very good English and we live in Canada. how old was she anyway? Ive been here in Korea for two weeks and Ive been hearing quite a bit about cross-cultural relationships as there seem to be so many foreigners here dating Korean men and women. i really lmao i`m egyptian 2 and seeing what we do in foreigner`s eyes was awesome like seeing it for the first time i really felt like living with u PS: what a shame egyptian girls r great in bed :D just kidding :P. poor boy :P im so thankful for living outside egypt!! My wife comes from a very liberal family; and I mean that in a strictly political sense. Learn Arabic in the fastest, easiest and most fun way. at the end it was nice to read this exprience :), I totally feel you man ! I'm an Egyptian Muslim girl and I can definitely say that most (if not all) of what's mentioned here is true! She was a nurse. To be completely frank and upfront, I spent most of my high school years in love with traditional cultures, Native American traditions, Eastern ideas, Indian raga music, aspects of Hinduism, and the Grateful Dead = so you can draw your conclusions from there. The reason for this is that its expected that youll already have a stable, secure job and an apartment to offer the girl you want to marry. Marwan and Menna are confessing their love to each other. I'm a Muslim Egyptian Girl, and I can't agree less with wt u said cz its all true! Our relationship seems to run a lot smoother. Dear friend Asalamo Alikum my name is Khan from Pakistan currently I m in Riyadh Saudi Arabia. My Egyptian girlfriend jus broke up with me because her father told her she had to. that's why men use the prostitutes to help them instead of paying that much money . Do you see this structured marriage process changing at all? and their problems become yours too. Unfortunately I doubt that I could get away with "begging for forgiveness instead of asking for permission.". Go for independent and older women. Her entire family tree (at least the last century) has been based in Egypt, so their social and political outlooks completely destroyed this engrained dichotomy that there is such a thing as a "western" perspective and a "middle eastern" perspective. family is number 1 in middle east not the money and all what you mentioned in your story because her family want to be sure that the new family will not fail.every new project need money and a good people who you trust if you really care about the future.poor people and rich people get married nothing is related to how much you have its about how u are smart to manage yourself and take the responsibility of take are of your new family.you are already have my email feed me back if u like.till then good bye and good luck. Directly translating to little sun, this is a good term of endearment to use for anyone who brightens your life. you are right about the commitment from day 1, and taking the parent permission to start dating. we went out togetherhad lunchbeen to the movie and made many activities together with holding all respect for eachother, and actually this helped alot in making our inner feelings for eachother grow and now we really can't wait to be joined together in one home. However she's become more flexible with her son throughout the years in terms of going out to parties etc. 7. I hated how girls couldnt fall in love or date without having a ring on their finger and chaperoned everywhere they go. Our relationship was filled with laughter, but our relationship was DIFFICULT AS HELL. The opinions of pre-marital sex is present in all religions. Having said that, this dictionary might be of some help. They even told me to get out of the house at one point. Yes, they are all like that. About the amount of gold, I admit that some families exaggerate, specially in south Egypt, but not really all the families do. No matter how you spell it, "Grammy" is a popular term of endearment for American grandmothers. I am sacrificing alot to be with him. Thing is, it differs a bit depending on social class, but it's more of a business deal rather than a marriage. We did not want to be pushed into marriage just because the culture does not allow "dating without engaged parties". Thats it, everyone! or is not used to address their own brother/sister. I am 40 years old Egyptian woman who grew up in Egypt and moved to USA when I was 20. ba6a (): Duck. Enjoy! Let me explain this in the best way I know how. 4. That doesn't mean that Egyptian parents aren't ridiculously strict and there is no such thing as for example; a muslim dating a christian! I take my hat off to you blokes for doing that. Thanks for sharing. As Ive already said above, men are judged quite harshly on what they own and what their status is. This kind of relationship does wonders for your target language skills. 45:40. I feel so bad it didnt work between you and the girl you fall in love with in Egypt. First, of course, is about anything sweet. While it is a genuine consideration, hearing things like this really plants seeds of doubt in your mind and causes you to be overly suspicious. Sad to know your girlfriend family and dad could not have been patient and waited til you came back within a year. x'D. The Kom at the end is an object pronoun for second person masculine but plural. we love each other's company) = love in the sense of kindness or friendship (i.e. And I meant popping in current Egyptian dialect (mainly Arabic). caro/a - "dear". If you really love that girl, go make an effort and study/learn their language. As in But none so sweete as thy selfe, sweete conye moppe. You may have experienced that as well, as you stated the reluctance of your own family, though you didn't go too much into detail so I won't paint a picture I don't know fully. We met in Cairo, dated for 2 years, got married and now have grown up children. so my father was totally the opposite, no interviews, but of course we have to get to know each other! but as an egyptian girl who suffered from these rules as well. Thank you, Wow! I want people to know that alot of families in Egypt marry foreign people all the time and its no big deal at all, its just like being in canada or the U.S u can date and do what you want and never have to meet the dad unless you both wanted that, none of that crap you went through! Rug-rat - A funny nickname for your kid sister. After all, it is one of the most important decisions of a lifetime. But, arguably, it is a standard term of endearment for any grandmother. You lived in here -Egypt-, almost got married to a FAMILY which you've nothing in common with, and you're still breathing with a heart still beating, with no curses and so.. yet :D! despite that, God bless you! My wife's parents ultimately leave my religious inclinations to my own decision. It was often produced in solid form and worn as jewellery. * The Egyptian family low will let her take all your money and mybe go to jail if she decided to go to court whatever she asked for divorce or you , Egyptian low treats men as criminals should be punished and treat women as Angels should be always rewarded . Great read! This is another term of endearment that literally means My soul. my finace had to go back to america after 3 weeks only, he wont be able to come back except after 8-10 months :( so now we just call and waiting desperately for us to be joined again. eventually he dated me to have sex only, he tried so much although i explained i can't do it, because of religion and culture reasons but he never respect that , lied alot to me so i had to say goodbye to him , although until now i can say i never loved someone like him,he has no religion but i believed that love has no limits. So, if I call someone Ya Ghali It means O precious one.. seriously? This occurred a few years ago already, correct? While his English is near fluent, I still feel sometimes he wants to say something that he can't express to me. Learn about the best Arabic language resources that I've personally test-driven. I think so I will also face same scenario like ya I am in love with girl from cairo ( egypt) ..we started talking on fb year ago..I am planning to meet with her next year she also agreed on it..she is girl of very nice nature,cute,sweet, loving caring all things good about her :) She has very good loving friends and very good family and she passes her most of time in college attending lectures,back to home, cooking cleaning etcI am afraid if tomorrow we agreed ro marriage will she leave egypt for me or she n her parents will only agree if I settle with her in egypt? gioia - "joy", a personal favorite of all nonne and tate. Both of these people do not necessarily need to be described as Assal or Sokkar in a romantic context. MY PRECIOUS! Lesson learned: Unlike the infrequent visits to the in-laws that people are used to in the Western world, you can expect to see them constantly in Egypt. Well, I love you as much as the whole world! JASHA KANOZ JAHA PAHAN MAHOVA. I hope and pray your in a great situation right now.. God bless you. n btw both were atheist! I didn't see the other comments, so excuse me if this is a repeated question: Seriously, what did you like about Egypt?! its because the father will give his daughter to a man that soon to be his daughter's husband and before letting go of his daughter he has to make sure that his daughter gets the best :D maybe sounds a little bit weird but its true! *Even society act like women are not responsible for their actions. It's the term for 'beloved'. I said no, so that is why he is coming to America. Ha!) Egyptian society is very materialistic I never understood how! I realize that a lot of people reading this are non-religious. hhhhhhhhhhhhh now you know the heroic story of every Egyptian guy want to get married. I credit this girl as being one of the main reasons why I went from being an intermediate speaker of Egyptian Arabic to an advanced speaker. This was actually a word for a young fish, but it could also be a term of endearment for a girl or young woman. Awesome. These muslims especially from egypt and Saudi Arabia and South Asia are very conservative. Other common words that can be used as terms of endearment include loving words like "babe," "baby," "love," and "dear." There are many variations to all of these that you can try. We are not all the same, you just have to make sure the women what's her intentions if she is after marriage only some family's are like that. I think it is all about how you would like to be portrayed. This is the most important term for describing someone you love that you must have heard even before you started learning Arabic. By late I mean its common for men in Egypt not to be regarded as ready for marriage until theyre well into their mid-thirties. he was lucky I was residing in the US. I told them that it wouldn't bother me at all, but if religion really mattered, I don't think he'd be interested in dating me anyway. Best Actor winner for Tender Mercies, with presenter Dolly Parton. brotherly love) = love in the sense of infatuation (i.e. I dont usually post a comment on a blog or something but I felt sorry for falling in love or thinking that you could fall in love with such an egyptian girl/boy. "Nana" is a sweet-sounding term for a grandma. Some guys in the West still have the decency to talk to the girls father before asking her to marry him. I am sorry you had such a difficult experience. we love each other's company) = love in the sense of kindness or friendship (i.e. he had to sell his laptop to fly across the Atlantic Ocean to come see me! hahahahah you really made me laugh man x) o b3den enta fen kont fe masr y3ni that pic with the galabeya xD omg hahahaha where da hell were yaaa x) xD but i felt sorry for you and for things not working but oh well :D many things are true though :D and even so i dont want an Egyptian man, i dont think i'd ignore those basic things when "marrying an Egyptian girl " hahahaha but many families are understanding and felxible with gold issues or similar not very very important stuff..ya batta [wtf hahaha] :D am sorry its just funny coming from a foreigner , 7yatti 3alek hahaha god knows what else you been through x) :D. I'm really sorry it didn't go well for you, most of what you described here is associated with people from the rural areas or low social levels in Cairo which can be a great obstacle for a lot of upper middle class that are a bit westernized let alone a foreigner. 7abibi is also frequently used between friends, members of the family or young children. Even though my bride-to-bes family knew I had very little at the time, to many of her extended family I was regarded as someone of a much higher status for the simple fact that I was from a Western nation. That shows respect. i'm telling you this story only to tell you that people aren't always the same, for me what an egyptian women is looking for is to be with a real MAN, someone to protect her, be her father , brother and friend, someone to treat her like she's the only lady in this lifeto be a good father of her kids and to embrace her =) i'm really sorry for your bad experience and i really wish you have a good life and better chance. And that's why the number of Egyptian men getting married to foreigner women, even from other Arab countries such as Morocco and Syria, has been skyrocketing in recent years. This is also one of my favorites because its very difficult to translate to English. This is on top of all the other wedding expenses that the man has to come up with. It basically implies something like I love you to death. but, since u knw arabic now, have u heard of the word "TADBISA"? frequently). This actually may drive away any foreign fella I might set my eyes on after reading it :'D you know, for the "citizenship" and so.. :P buuuuut, not all the Egyptian girls like Gold btw! but talking frank, not all the families are like that in Egypt. When I went home to Australia we maintained contact via Skype and telephone several times a day for a whole year. There is definitely a less conservative sector who is much less concerned with religion (if at all). (Batta) made me really laugh, it shouldn't be used with men but only for women, and not even for elegant women. The ancient Egyptians knew it as the spells for going forth by day. One aspect of this that strikes me as being very difficult is making a commitment before you even know whether you want to make a commitment, since you don't know the other person--very different from how things are done in the US or Australia. Lol! Lesson learned: Guys need a serious set of balls if they want to pursue a girl in the Middle East and a good story to back themselves up when being interviewed by the father. I love being different from her, and she loves being different from me. comeon11221. "She for whom the sun doth shine". It frustrates both of us. I briefly dated an Iraqi girl here in the Netherlands last year, and now I see why things didn't work out. Im talking about the language of the streets. I am interested with an Egyptian girl and your post gave me some idea of their culture and I'm sure it will be helpful for me. Schatz (treasure) You don't have to go to the end of the rainbow to find it, because "Schatz" is by far the most common German term of endearment. If you respect one another, each of you will learn so much from each perspective that is brought to the table. First reason is that she is 10 years younger than me (she is 25) we are really good friends and talk everyday even take lunch together everyday and I have given her some gifts like on Christmas I give her chocolate all the time and all but do u guys think if there's lot of age difference it will work? A term of endearment is word or phrase used to address another person, animal or even object for which the speaker feels affection.
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