This is a good measure to combat "spaghetti factories" as it forces someone to plan a structured layout and move everything to use items from the bus. by netmand Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:16 pm, Post Hamburg, Giessen Search reviews. When one wants to use the items on their bus one could directly take items off the bus as if it is just a belt, though that would mean an extremely long bus and useless lengths of other belts. by astroshak Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:08 am, Post - Flensburg, Hamburg - Hamburg. 0eNqlld1qhDAQhV+lzHUsxv/6DPsGpRTdDUvAjRLjUhHfvaPWVTBbMu1VcPR8OTOTMQOUVScaLZWBfAB5rlUL+fsArbyqoppipm8E5HCX2nQYYaCK2xRYvvAiGBlIdRFfkPOREZSnnTKwKqURt01mdKHaptbGK0VlduLwP+Jo/GAglJFGiiX1+aH/VN2tFBqTejA6VOirrnFdKAyaukVhraZ9EeYFDHpc0NFqo+5M000bHsABAewTuCHFMCeAo2fVPGAfVAsl/kM9+WZPqifuEmd3KxUPHVykFuflXWKBpu5Q7gzNtkloKmkMxo44/zVec7cg3qitCGwU7lMxVjOcuyTEfxLyrYiA2j27k9DBif+rkYg8lS6Hk8f0oXTiJsQO2suWUhpoP0oZofJIwJ/u/IPOdxcQg6pA7xiLvBnyMl0ad6HbZZSyNOBZmPhhNI7frCw6ag==, 0eNqdld9qgzAUxl9lnOs4TBq19Rl6tdsxhrahBGyUGMuK+O476jqFxpGzq+DR75fv/DHpoaw61VhtHOQ96FNtWsjfe2j1xRTVGHP3RkEON21dhxEGpriOgfmLSMLAQJuz+oKcD8yj1E5dF5mzhWmb2rqoVJVbiYVXvLXtcaXckZRvK6UcPhgo47TTas57erh/mu5aKosZ/ao7VNiLrXGdnTNo6haFtRk3RVgkGNxxQTsPD3Xnmm5M8gksCOCYwN1RDHMCWBLAFG7yjwrzBazNBjfdmrhNKg4gnLVVp/ld6oFmwdDYyxQe5j7cKA82elimvqm0cxh7xsWvyaOeHgSP6R0PaQznwQnz4CJyEZIw/0k49ua7o06Mv2wywEn8p5GEfDYE1T2lHw1B3IzYT3/Z9pQGCi/iQKg8EvDon66mfHUHMqgK9I4xGU2Ql2qE3JRt539NSpGmmeDiMAzfI+ZmDA==, 0eNqlldFugzAMRX9l8nOYcEih5TP2Ok0TbaMqEgQUQjVU8e8LdAy0hirWniIM9+TajsMNjmUnG6O0hfwG6lTrFvL3G7TqootyjNm+kZDDVRnbuQgDXVRj4P5FJGBgoPRZfkGOAyMo31ZK7lUqK6tFZk2h26Y2NjrK0q7EyX/EYvhgILVVVsl76tND/6m76iiNS2qLwaCpWyer9birQ0WcQe+WZBgN/cHwX0znNjYXU7t1AxTPHDYnU3e26UbbD9yEwI2QABYEMIW7I9eT++qZkjHow2TBmHg2w+CsjDzdX3EPc7+c9KZU1rrYo6n4dffE1iHYFgbbwpjeUVw6qvRGQxFD8sWffGNfusip3fRWDZMAJ/FTI4I8pkEl2tGnNIibEs+Jv2wZpYHeacQ9ofKO4O7c6X7OV/8fBmXhvLuYiCbIy8i4StNOiFQInqYZR34Yhm/sYzpB. But hey, if it can give you some form of advantage, then why not try to do it? This is also a downside as there are more belts used and therefore more room for belt-buffer and everything is less compact. Plastic x1 (recommend x2) Batteries x1. As of 0.16 Splitters can prioritize one in- and output lane, therefore the above design can supply fully saturated belts if the splitters are set up in a way that prioritizes the output belt (to earlier production) rather than letting items go on. Make sure to re-balance belts after you split from them. - Belt Balancers - how they work and how to make them, Finding balance: A guide to belt balancers, https://wiki.factorio.com/index.php?title=Balancer_mechanics&oldid=183149. by vanatteveldt Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:14 pm, Post While the core gameplay is in the form of the freeplay scenario, there are a range of interesting challenges in the form of the Scenario pack, available as free DLC. I have made about two lines of iron and copper in my last few vanilla games. Valve Corporation. Your resources still come from a mine somewhere, so your bus will get thinned out after a while even with balancing. Definitely 4 green circuits. You need to sign in or create an account to do that. Creating a train grid factory. Now red belt can span 6 tiles, which is pretty good for parts of the bus. Makes doing blue science and rockets later easier as well. To balance belts it has to be made sure that the output belts contain an equal number of items from each input belt. Since the process can be repeated infinitely, balancers with 2n output belts are easy to create. This indicates not enough products being produced to meet demand, this can be remedied with adding more lanes with corresponding more production further up the chain of production. by MobRules Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:12 am, Post Using iron plates as index 100: Copper: 78 Steel: 7 Plastic: 15 Coal: 13 Iron Gear: 6 Electronic Circuit: 38 Advanced Circuit: 6 Stone Brick: 2 Note that this is for science only. I usually go for KatherineOfSky's bus, especially in vanilla or slightly modified vanilla play, which is this: My own personal Factorio super-power - running out of power. Grouping differing items together can cause problems when splitting them off, hence only groupings of two differing items is recommended. Balancers also use the mechanic that splitters take an equal amount of items from both input belts. Belt balancers utilize the mechanic that splitters output items in a 1:1 ratio onto both their output belts. I was pleasantly surprised when I saw you were behind this. - That means that a splitter can be used to put an equal amount of items on two belts. When one doesn't have enough production to saturate a belt (or splits it into more) then this can be called a "fake"-bus as it can not be saturated. 0 reviews that are not currently recommended. What items one puts on a bus is a personal preference. Frankfurt (Airport), Hamburg Place 2 rows of belts along the assemblers. If you don't have red circuits yet, don't worry -- you're just planning for the future! Use a blueprint book instead of designing your own. Please see the. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. If you want to get away from spaghetti designs, building a Main Bus will allow you to reach a vast throughput of materials through your factory. - One of the most popular alternatives is the modular outposts. All production and builds in the factory are belt based and there are 4 identical, but rotated \"mini bases\" that each produce 1.3k SPM and fit into a corner triangle. Having smaller groups of only one or two is also not a bad thing. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/ =754378586. by Rjskeet Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:55 am, Post Youre allowed to do your bus as you see fit. Support me on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/JD_PlaysMy Twitter For details of upcoming live streams and anything else 280 Char or less: https://twitter.com/JD_Play5Chat with me live on Discord: https://discord.gg/G6FcZPpTwitch for all your Live Steaming needs: https://www.twitch.tv/jdplaysFeel like being hit in the face, with a book? The gif on the right shows a 4 4 balancer being fed by two belts, but only outputting one belt which means that its throughput in that arrangement is 50%. there were conveyor belts. It's all about trial and error as you start out, you can't be afraid to build something and let it run for a few hours to see how it works - if its not working right delete it and try something else. One downside to this can be that all resources are used up before every machine gets fed. I also have a return bus that carries science packs back to the lab area. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Upgrade belts when more throughput is needed. Look at how many different recipes use the thing you have decided to bus, and then estimate how much throughput your factory will need. I wouldn't go over 4 belts for anything, you can pull off easily and rebalance 4 belts. This may happen at a later stage in the game up to which a bus is a very good tool to reduce clutter. at minimum put 4 productivity 3 modules on the rocket silo for to reduce supplies needed for the rocket by 40%. We have located 2 bus terminals and one bus stop in Hamburg. Community-run subreddit for the game Factorio made by Wube Software. Add more production to fill your belts with intermediate products: Copper & Iron Plate, Steel, Green Circuits, etc. You can replace splitters and undergrounds similarly by just placing upgraded versions on top of the old, (without the need to deconstruct them). As others have said the main bus simply acts as a buffer - remember that it's not your resource pool. This formula is based on the number of nodes in a Bene network, which is essentially the same as a throughput unlimited balancer it allows any input to reach any output. Done! This allows for expanability of systems, and easy pulling from the Bus. Once you can expand them in Factorio, you may put one of the green and red circuit builds each, alongside the blue processors, modules, science, and steel smelting. I love using helmod to do all calculations in-game, but of course a spreadsheet is fine as well. The orientation of and how wide the players monitor is also plays a role in this decision. The following amenities are available at Bus terminal bus stop: ATM, Toilet, Luggage storage, Kiosk and Coffee bar Near the bus stop in Bus terminal you can also find: Train station (387 m) and Parking (203 m) In case that you wish to continue your journey from the bus stop, you can find . Sharing makes us all stronger and more inspired to come up with new ideas! Click here to open location in google maps. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. (As shown). Now red belt can span 6 tiles, which is pretty good for parts of the bus. Sometimes this can be fixed by looping the unused output back around the balancer and distributing it among the inputs. - Thus up to a full belt can be delivered and the remaining resources can go through on the main bus. I am currently thinking bigger now and starting a new game with a starter base and then working on building 'towns' that each produce stuff and use trains instead of a main bus to move supplies between the towns. Cookie Notice - Pristina, Hamburg Yet! If you need more inject more material later instead of widening the bus. Lubricant: Used in making Electric Engines & Express (blue) level belts, splitters and undergrounds. The width of the bus can become a problem if it is very wide. - This page was last edited on 23 November 2020, at 11:18. Do you just want to finish the game, or do you plan on continuing after the rocket? These are being used to transport items and put some of it in the centre spot (which is the main purpose of a main bus). Some of the most popular companies departing from Hamburg are: Comati PSG, DTG Deutsche Touring GmbH, Sindbad, Union Ivkoni, Winew and Rute Auto. Berlin, Hamburg Balancers that are input balanced take evenly from all input belts/belt lanes. Hannover, Hamburg Hamburg Using a non-prioritizing split-off will only distribute the shortage, not magically create more production. how many belts of iron/copper/green circuits should I make, I'm currently planning on doing 4iron,4coppper,2green circuits. Reason being is to have 4 belts of green circuits at full power requires 6 belts of copper and 4 belts if iron. Split off a full belt of red circuits to go closest to the assemblers, since they are needed in highest quantity. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. A good example of this are copper cables as they consume more space on a belt than in the form of copper plates. However, in most cases a belt is split away from the main bus that can deliver the resource to a sub-factory. Place a regular inserter and a long armed inserter to feed each Science assembler. You especially want more gears and iron plates because that's what your betls cost to produce. 1 full input belt gets split into two 50% full belts which get split into 4 belts that are each 25% full. - There are alternative designs, for example, using splitter priorities to fully prefer the setups near the start of the main bus and only allow materials to go through to a later setup if that earlier setup's needs are satisfied. The first bus me and my friend are working on is currently like 8 hours into development and we've just got everything set where we can start making plastic, so it takes a long time. - Yea, that's fine, to make gears where they are needed. Hope the guide was helpful :-). I think this would be adequate: Oh, I already have blue belts. Other times, this is not an option. I ment it more like a general thing like if someone has a favorite setup they use it a cool to learn stuff from others like having 8 copper lines instead of just 4. Glad you found it useful! Oldenburg, Hamburg I'm not a fan of linear buses, but I would urge you to plan out a production target and design according to that. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). Groningen, Hamburg The reason I asked about what a main bus should have is because I am rebuilding my base from scratch. (I normally skip red belts and go straight to blue to save myself the annoyance of replacing the bus 2 times). 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, 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. Incredibly helpful, thanks for the effort. All purchases through these links help out the channel and when possible also give you guys discounts!Epic Games Store: https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/?epic_affiliate=jd-plays\u0026epic_gameId=undefinedHumble Bundle Store: https://www.humblebundle.com/?partner=jdplaysHow to find me?-----------------------------------------------------Feel bad about Adblocker? Split off iron in two places (for throughput), and a half-belt of green circuits. What should I put on my new main bus and how many belts of each item? ): http://www.xtermvideos.comCheck out Factorio at: https://www.factorio.comFactorio is a game in which you build and maintain factories.You will be mining resources, researching technologies, building infrastructure, automating production and fighting enemies. The 4 line meta comes from a time of fixed underground lengths and the need for even balancer sizes. They are also inefficient to belt -- 1 copper plate makes 2 copper cables, inflating the need for belts by two-fold! Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America), http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=661582295, https://www.reddit.com/r/factorio/comments/4d3per/belt_balancer_compendium/, Red Circuits (Advanced Circuits) x1 (recommend x2). Place Concrete or Stone Brick under a couple lanes of your bus & in one of the spaces between lanes (at a minimum) since it gives you a speed boost when running. Input balanced lane balancers draw evenly from each side of the input belt, while output balanced lane balancers output evenly onto each lane of the output belt. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Watching the trains move through the junction is so satisfying and mesmerizing! I've had many playthroughs of the vanilla and mildly modded factorio but until now have consisted of main bus's of ingredients and trains that only bring ores from long distances to feed the fires. - Far better to make these locally as needed. It is advisable to leave space between the groups of belts of one item for underground belt to surface and for other things to cross the bus. Hamburg, Lviv The balancers/taps get very large above 4 since your next logical jump is 8. The base uses a combination of Solar and Nuclear power to supply the whopping 30GW of needed power when the factory is going full tilt. Bring the belt to the target lane, then split off, making sure you make the T-junction BEFORE connecting it to ensure that product fills only a single side of the belt. Every item that is used in more than one recipe, got it's own production area with train inputs and train outputs, in my 2700 SPM game. These start out as iron chests, upgrade to Passive Providers, then to Requesters as earlier belts are phased out. If there is enough input for the item to saturate a whole belt then putting a lane-balancer in won't help to get more items later on. I agree with Hedning, that it depends on whether you want to launch one satellite and then say "game over" (and start over), or continue on, and see how many satellites you can launch, and build a mega-base! This is fixed by adding more furnace/mine set ups to keep production high. The priorities can be set in various ways but this should not distract from the fact that more resource input should be added whenever this becomes a concern. For the belt furthest from the assembler, split off copper plates. That means that a splitter can be used to put an equal amount of items on two belts. You'll get more benefit from your modules if you prioritize using them for more expensive things first. Bowling. Although a main bus can give you a huge advantage, it's still up to you if you want to use it. 6 years later and you still respond to almost each and every person. Munich, Hamburg By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Place Assemblers: 1 crafting Iron Gear Wheels, 6-8 making Red Science. Even if you only have 2 rows of green circuits, you might be just fine provided you can make enough of them, but most people do 4 for large bases. 1 Rocket every 5 min "ONLY" requires one blue belt of steel and 7 copper if your curious. (Many products require both iron plates and gear wheels). Here are some Assembly line examples to get you started: Science pack production can efficiently pull off of the main bus to have an expandable system. Blue belt can transport 40 items per second fully compressed. In essence this means that an n-n balancer is not a functional n-(n-1) balancer. Factorio SPLITTING OFF THE BUS How to Split off the bus 1.0 Tips and Tricks done quick - YouTube Buy Factorio here: https://www.humblebundle.com/store/factorio?partner=jdplaysMore. These items are often just put into chests for personal use rather than on a bus. A corner is not unheard of but very unusual and is often only necessary when a lake appears that is not planned for. I hope to cover everything in the series, but if you can't find something in the playlist above please leave a comment and I'll try to make a video on it.Today we covered how to split off a main bus, using priority splitters in both a waterfall and a reverse waterfall method, as well as more traditional main bus splits which take 25% off each lane.Map Download https://drive.google.com/open?id=1tP8lTMwijmavLCTsXYDTlB6xoNbfbFOlBlueprint String: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ML-UGyxwLOSfpIKC9G6L35IXkPqNOMImFactorio is a game in which you build and maintain factories.You will be mining resources, researching technologies, building infrastructure, automating production and fighting enemies. For the belt close to the assembler, split off half a lane of iron plates. It will just depend on you on which design you would do as long as the conveyor belt is included. Paris, Hamburg Split-off designs aren't strictly necessary but help immensely. Comati PSG Zentral-Omnibus-Bahnhof Bus terminal, Hamburg, Comati PSG Zentral-Omnibus-Bahnhof Bus terminal. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. by astroshak Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:44 am, Post Really quite unique in my opinion.The factory utilizes 2-8 single length single headed trains for the raw material transportation.

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