Hundreds! My question is: Who has the ability to manipulate both the cameras internal storage database and the photos? The phones remained active for nearly 10days after the pair went missing. While I do believe eventually, and possibly soon after this, there was foul play, I dont think anything untoward was happening as of this photo. But the call logs gave the cops a rough outline of the time the girls spent missing in the jungle. Jane, Recently I have been reading that it is not unusual for people that hike or run in dangerous places and go missing that a shoe with a foot is found. Theres some orange with white dots. As for the wrong password entry. Didnt they cross the line where it had a clear sign not to cross it? Maybe shes told to put her hands up and walk into this structure. Are you familiar with the Koude Kaas blogs about this case? Debra Ann Velleman, of Waukesha, Wis., and Sue Borries, of Teutopolis, Ill., are missing after their plane crashed off the coast of Panama on Jan. 3, 2022. Like you would get from being hit. . That is an interesting photo taken of Kris Kremers under the slatted roof. They were only 2 weeks into their trip and only on their 4th day in Boquete so they were innocents abroad and would have been broadcasting that to all who cared to look. The abductor did not take their things because hes not a thief. Kriss in the photo is just watching her step. And two months later, a pelvic bone and a foot - still inside a boot - were found in the same area, according to La Estrella de Panama. I wish I had them as actual photographs that I could shuffle around until I can place them in the order in which I think they were taken. At the beginning of this video I think I see some blue dye/paint/powder on one of the mens legs and something blue on the floor. The girls phone records later showed that they started making their initial distress calls on their cell phones approximately 2 hours and 45 minutes after their last known daytime photo (Photo 508). It would also show that the photos had been truly messed about with, as this one is supposed to come before the photos of her crossing the stream. The consumption of Ayahuasca as a religious experimental drug is becoming very common in different countries. The bones of Lisannes foot were fractured in an unusual way (from the top down). 1. For a monster (him or them) this was enjoyment. Daytime would be sweaty but what about at night when the temperature would be down in the 50-60s? I do not know. Hi JW, yes I agree with you about many things. In fact, to bring a dog for a walk is less common in general, because most dogs are permitted to go outside anytime they want. 3. 90% take place right here in the US in state parks. The parallel side-supports would have been covered with leaves in order to make a suitable temporary roof. Websites/blogs speculate about why, but nothing has been confirmed. Cave photo: After exhaustive thought, my theory: First, respect to family, friends, and the good. Their causes of death have never been determined. play. Youre welcome to do that other places online. Nonsense. So many questions and there is no clear starting place like a police report to read. Photoshopping is not hard to do nor is it very tactical as many have proposed here. But because of their theatrics and ignoring the evidence, the story and curiosity will continue to keep this case alive. According to one web sleuth, the snaps taken on the camera a week after the girls vanished might have been taken with the flash to light up the path as they stumbled through the dark jungle. He wants the gringos to go away and leave him in peace. Im impressed how you were able to see the other things in the photo. Here is what I see: I dont see any confirmation from law enforcement either as to whether or not the white bones were tested for bleaching. Thanks for the analysis though, I keep looking for new stuff, this case really gets to meI can see why people think this was a criminal act -I see that with some aspects of the case, however, I do think that it was the result of injury and or getting lost -I cant see a criminal 1) letting them keep their phones and camera and 2) letting the camera and phones being discovered. Also important is who they met because two tall and very attractive new arrivals would certainly get all the boys tongues wagging. As you mention, she is blocking the sun with her hand and keeping her head down. Only three days later the three assailants were given their sentences: Hctor Abrego - 15 years in prison and must pay his sentence in jail in Santiago. The police, the media attention, the suspicions on him. Unfortunately the resolution is not high enough to identify any specific shapes, although it appears to contain the colors white and red. Instead, they think What words can I say to make my local population feel better? After all, locals elect these same authorities. Stop trying to read too much into it. Two intelligent girls could not be veering off course to this dense vegetation on their own accord. Hands tied behind her back, face looks a bit puffy too, as if been in an altercation of sorts. Article about our trip plans: Research Team Update Support Us, Campaign Link: Mapping The Jungle Trails Of Panama. You can bet your life if someone was with them at that point, then they were the culprits who had something to do with the girls disappearance. All of this leads to resentment and frustration, which results in higher crime rates. The point is that all of this case was poorly handled by the authorities. I cant say what it is, but it looks similar to an object, that can be seen in some of the nighttime photos, like in this one here. if you break your ankle in a fall and die your foot is likely to be found IN the shoe as is what happened. Despite search teams, which included dogs and. Like jaguar? Where did you hear this? These photos all look very photoshopped. Snoeren had called West and told her: "With all that Im reading now in the police file, it couldnt be anything else there was a certain sequence and timing to it, that had to be caused by the flash floods, typical to the region and season. I dont understand the question. Seriously? However, if Kremers and Froon had found manmade ramshackle structures during their hike, such as the possible items viewed in this photo, its possible they had unwanted company. Photo link: Hi Anna, youre casting a wide net when you say If anything, they work harder to try and bring anyone to justice that harms a tourist.. Thanks for some new information, excellent analysis of the photo! I think they were murdered and their greatest mistake was to travel to this little town in Panama. Adventurers and travelers seek different experiences. If anything, that is an evidence that they were taking more risks than a regular tourist/hiker, so being lost and/or injured seems to me much more reasonable explanation (than murdered) based on that. Other than the dog, the young women went on their hike alone, only asking for directions from a local innkeeper, who advised them to take a taxi back to town. Debbie, I agree. Slight left and up from the girl. They want to protect their tourism industry but they also dont have the resources to effectively stop gang violence. Only a fool thinks they were attacked by people. I wrote about the upcoming book here: https://imperfectplan.com/2020/12/09/new-book-coming-spring-2021-kris-kremers-and-lisanne-froon-case/. The photos showed the girls belongings spread out on rocks, along with plastic bags and candy wrappers, mounds of dirt, and a mirror. Ive seen the chronological order of the photos posted by Scarlet and some of the strikes me as being askew. Kris has somewhat prominent cheeks and a full lower lip. Out of the dozens of calls, only one managed to connect, but broke up after just two seconds due to the lack of reception. Like she was scouting and turned back to talk to Lisanne, shielding her eyes from the sun to see her. I noticed this too. 9.3 million tourists visited Australia in 2019 (year ending June 2019). Hope this was not a member of one of those mad religious sects that, over the years, have been torturing and killing people in Panama. US Is Europe's No. What I have not found is concrete evidence of where they went. To touch on the disappearance case of Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon, we can vividly see the incompetence that took place, even under the spotlight of international pressure. A closer look at mysterious disappearances that continue to baffle detectives. The calls bother me though. If so, it would indicate that she had been kept alive for a few weeks or more. Theres A red plastic bag above Kris in a tree to her left. Its thought that Kremers and Froon were exploring nature without anyone else around. He goes down some intriguing avenues which while I may not agree with either the direction or point have value because they stimulate me to think. It does look like a manmade structure. 3. For the first handful, a correct password was entered. And they wont leave until they know all hope is lost. Whatever happened I believe was not from a man following them. I just realized Blue, the guide dog who often walks hikers up the trail, whose return home without the girls alerted locals they were missing, IS NOT IN ANY OF L & K pictures. It doesnt matter. After this, can ANYONE IN THIS WORLD still doubt that this girl WOULD NOT HAVE WRITTEN OR PHONED HER MOTHER FOR TWO WEEKS when she also called the police 100 times? That and the deleted photo make me for first time in my studies of this incident start to suspect foul play, but well never know. So its kind of curious that the most critical images are either cropped or missing entirely. When she finally reached her friend, it was basically too late, or very close to it. From the summit, they decided to go in a bit deeper, or just took the wrong exit path by mistake. Perhaps Kris is already caught in the trap and thats why she is in a funny position and her waist is drawn in tight. The dog found his way home. For a time, manysuspected Froon and Kremers never got lost on the mountain, but wereinstead victims of a crime in town; this later proved false. Thats what I see as well. I think the look on her face isnt scared, but she looks to maybe be in wonder that they found a place like that? Maybe the girls did perish deep in the jungle, but that doesnt rule out somebody causing them to get lost. Where is the Ping for that time? I find it odd that the young American girl was murdered not long after this not far away as with the taxi driver who was found depended likely murdered. To the right of the body is a cross fashioned out of two poles, as is customary in Panama. Its almost as if Kris is in the midst of turning back around at the moment this photo is taken, due to the foliage becoming too dense to proceed any further. The branches above her could be an attempt to hide the entrance. after studying the original photo, she is actually posing sticking her tongue out, in a slight hunched over salute, the light is hitting her hand, her pose and demeanor makes me believe it is Lisanne taking the photo. Nothing. People began to suspect something happened whenthe dog Blue returned from the hike unaccompanied. Its very disappointing to see the comment sections on this website to be allowed to turn into a very disrespectful and unfunny joke. He threatened them with a machete, and led them to a sacrificial alter. They decided to take that short hike, but they failed to tell anyone where they were going and what time to expect them back. This article seems to have a crop from high resolution version of the above photo. Theres a blood splatter on her leg from her tendon being cut, to keep her from running away. P.S. It would be interesting to know exactly where this photo was taken Is it along the main trail north of the Mirador en route to the stream crossing? Hi Jason, thanks for you comment. The mans face is clearly visible standing behind the rock with the red bags. Does anyone agree with me? Perhaps this was a cave hang-out spot used by local teenagers. Therefore, if Kris Kremers is normal and happy, as she appears to be in this photo (and in the other photos in the series), it means that things took a bad turn for them relatively soon after the photo above was taken. Her whole body is facing towards the right in the picture, almost in profile to the camera, with even her right leg in front of her left leg (a dancer would tell you that her whole body would much more naturally turn to the left, away from the camera) and then only her face turning right, towards the camera, the upper part of her body following slightly. Hay incongruencias en fechas y horas de los testigos y de los registros de los telfonos y la cmara, pero lo que ms me ha inquietado es la foto 506. He walked the trail with Ks parents, a sweet friendly lovely dog companion with big wise blue eyes, he is prominent in the video made by Ks parents as they walked the trail. OK I see the conspiracy theorists saying someone else had their phones but who else would know to try 112 which is the common emergency number for EU countries? Thats from her palm. Search shoe with foot in it found. And thinking its more possible that another person with a bleachbath and a Laptop/PC is wandering the jungle in Panama just shows me how little people nowadays know how dangerous the outdoors can be. She makes a last effort to wake her friend. Progress is slow because at least one of them has a cut tendon. Draw a line from that point in all directions as far as they could travel in the time to the emergency call, and there must be part of the answer to the mystery inside that circle. If you find any additional information, please let me know. It most certainly is not a joke. Hard noncontroversial evidence is very limited and what there is is open to interpretation. I never noticed this before Also there is a consistency to the timing of SOS attempts occurring two times each day +/ a few minutes of the exact same time. The blue object looks like it could be a crushed beer can. Maybe the girls were not so clever at tech but they did not leave voice or video memos to document their predicament not goodbye messages for family. Look for an ex-military man who may be the culprit. And I think that sunlight she is trying t avoid also is the reason for her facial expression. Honestly Ive hiked by myself before on a well known trail by my college and when I saw the American flag waving in the middle of the woods I was more scared than anything!!! Im always reviewing their case and looking for answers. I realize that its more interesting to make things more ominous than they are but this is a very sad case of two naive girls who were totally unprepared for their adventure and very sadly got lost, injured and succumbed to nature. We live in interesting times. In 2014 Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon, both from the Netherlands were traveling and exploring the Central American country of Panama. If they had solved the case, the international community (and the families) would have been satisfied and let it fade into history. If a cave was found that would be big news and there could be DNA evidence inside it. Nothing can explain the bones, the cut foot, their underwear in one of the backpacks. Ive seen cases in which political frenemies were erased out of photos without a trace. she does see something disgusting. Im curious. https://u.cubeupload.com/beavermatic/KrisKremersFullPhoto.jpg, Her hands are not tied behind her back! In other pictures of her crossing water she is clearly dirty with her hair up. Perhaps the killer of Catherine Johanet knows more, Hi, u might want to watch this vid it has theories dat i think might giv more insights to this case, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pCaD8kRTwsI. Could fishing line be being used to secure all this making it hard to see, & could that blue object on the ground be part of the roof device- step on it & it triggers it or something like that? Only returning them in hopes of getting the reward. Hi, do you know when and where this book will be available? Ive written about many disappearances in Central America: https://imperfectplan.com/disappearances/, Thank you for your comment and please feel free to send me any notes/info that you find. Maybe they stumbled on a hidden stash of drugs or something wierd and were taking a photo of the location in order to report it to the police, but got caught before they could. Froon had a Canon Powershot SX270 HS which contained numerous photos, many of which were of the period of time leading up to the day of the girls disappearance. PANAMA CITY BEACH Local officials agree that traffic is the No. From my own gutt feeling I see only a very preventable accident. The girls' camera showed evidence of what may have happened. No,they werent murdered. This eliminates all questions about why didnt the girls call X, Y, Z. The left-side of her head is not hair or her hand, but just the foliage in the background. However, with the high resolution photo, you can more clearly see an organized structure over her head. Kremers and Froon set out into the forest along thePianista Trail around 11 amon April 1, 2014,with only a backpack between them. What do you think? Im considering putting together a research team to visit Panama and further investigate the details of the case interviews, videos, mapping terrain, etc. Like you, I also live abroad in a developing country. I could be wrong, but to me this looks like it could be a hunting device of sorts, like a pit/catch trap. Why no more fotos were taken after 508 on the 1st until the nighttime session on the 7/8th? Was someone who's still out there responsible for their deaths? I posted a link at Koude Kas of example of Monkeys playing with phones because they were entranced by the flash. No chance. There are a lot of different indigenous tribes of Panama, most of which are peaceful. Just trying to get as many ideas together as possible, so that some clue may surface one day. I would start at both ends of the trail meaning working forward from where they started their walk and backwards from where their pathetic remains were found. Thanks in advance! One question sticking to the government interference and coverup, with the deletion of a photo (nr, 531?) I dont think so. One day in June, the tribespeople bring him what he wants; The backpacks and the bodies. Where did u see that picture ? At that time, she had her phone. To see all content on The Sun, please use the Site Map. So why did they go on a trip on April 1st? Even on my iPhone I could make it big enough to see odd things in the pic. Thanks for pointing this out. I know that their camera and mobile phone photos have been analyzed a thousand times by various people online but I also know that many people arent able to enhance the brightness, contrast, exposure and saturation in a professional graphics program. On April 3, 2014, authorities began an aerial search of the forests and an on-foot search ofBoquete. These other comments are just people seeing what they want to see, to make things more mysterious. The simplest is for them to disappear. It looks like an indigenous person with shiny black hair walking away from Kris. Might look harmless and untouched which is why she is standing so close but then she is either caught or trapped in a booby trap lol. For the most part, foreigners are just caught in the middle. The main/central support bar (branch?) You said it seems to me that they want to destroy the investigation I agree with you that it seems intentional to some degree. Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon were both adventurers. If a psychic reading leads to some legitimate form of tangible evidence and made public, then thats excellent, but otherwise I think its mostly a distraction. He ledo toda la compilacin y visto la mayora de videos. I created this graphic and highlighted the unusual items that seemed peculiar to me: In this photo of what looks like a cave or overgrown ravine, there are numerous possible items that suggest this place had been visited by other people. Most travelers that have big experiences want to remember the small details of trips, because the trip represents an important memory in their life. The remains of two American women who went missing after their plane crashed off the coast of Panama a month ago have been recovered, officials said. Her hands are not tied. The families are now working on having the womens' remains brought back to the U.S., he said. The black and red object above is clearly a decayed plant leaf. Subsequent analysis revealed that on April 4, Froons phone battery became exhausted, but between April 5 and April 11, Kremers iPhone was turned on multiple times but whoever turned it on didnt enter the PIN code correctly. the only strange element in this photo is the distance. Regarding accidents (My father a doctor always said accidents do not exist. Certainly this could have been due solely to incompetence alone, but they ignored performing relatively simple investigation tasks more than once. Thats perplexing to me. It begins to rain. March 3, 2023, 7:57 AM. Not lurking or following the girls or walking beside them; nothing. They may not have even know what they were doing, taking pictures, if they werent familiar with technology, and tossed the phone again at some point for the girls to grab to attempt the emergency calls and taken it back at some point after. However, upon closer inspection, shes really ducking her head as to say look at the things over my head. This level of negligence and irresponsibility would be considered criminal in a developed country. There are no public statistics. Personally, I believe that number one mentioned above is the most likely reason. In the end, maybe this photo has more information that was originally thought.

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