We went back to Govan until we could get passage, and I attended Bellahouston Academy. Just answering Margaret Fletcher's post below. The Wine Alley is a boutique wine shop specializing in fine wines from the Pacific NW and Around the world! It was just before I packed in this job that I met Sean Damer when he came to our house to some of the family in 1974. I almost joined Majorettes but I had no coordination so no chance of being Govan Queen either that year. Pauline Belkadi: Thanks for the name of the shop 'Bobby's'. There was another pub next door, The Bellrock. Value 3/4 . Wine Alley Govan Kids Southern General Hospital On the Clyde Govan Kvaerner/Fairfield Shipyards Govan Shipyards ( Front gate pics ) The Plaza/Vogue Govan Dry Docks Trams in Govan/ Goods Carriers Inside the Lyceum Bingo/Picture Hall Lyceum Projection Room Lyceum Foyer & Balcony Foyer Lyceum Cinema Balcony Inside The Lyceum Govan Baths Harhill Ai uitat contul? I am researching my family tree and as both my grandparents died in 1990 and 1993 respectively I can't ask them. At the time this article was written in the local Southside paper, prices for the projected apartments were going up dramatically among the speculators.14 A few hundred yards east of this development, one-bedroom apartments at the newly built QE3 (Clydeside Festival Park) in Govan were selling for 129,995 while two-bedrooms at the same place will cost you 199,995. However, given the area's reputation there was also a large numbers of empty houses. Not Now. However, there is the potential for tourism development, for example, the planned development of the Govan Old site, which hosts the historically significant stone carvings, has led to the development of the surrounding townscape and new infrastructure. Photos: Splash News. I think he lived in Partick and had 2 little girls. People lived with the inconsistency in the records. We lived in Southcroft St., when we got married. Every month her and neighbours would make tablet, cakes, scones and stuff. And Linda Paterson, I knew your dad Geordie Paterson, and I think he had a brother Willie. The first, Moorepark Grounds, was situated to the north of the mansion from the early 1900s and made way for the housing development;[12] the second (New Moore Park, opened in 1929) was to the south-west of the neighbourhood off Edmiston Drive[12] and had fallen into some disrepair before being replaced by a business park at the turn of the 21st century, with the club moving to new facilities at Shieldhall after some years of uncertainty.[13][14]. Janet Logan (Williamson) I remember your family. [10][11], The area was associated with Junior football team St Anthony's who had two grounds in the area. Also, among the plans for Govans hub was a programme to make Govans main shopping area more attractive such as joining Govans Market, Shopping Centre, Underground and bus depot together under the one roof. I remember one time, my big brother hiding in the midden under all the ashes, when I went down three stories to empty the fire ashes. Instead, it referred to the popularity of cheap and powerful tonic wines particularly with young people - the vast consumption of which would often lead to violence and disorder. But. Prihlsi sa. Poor health and low-levels of educational qualifications are offered as secondary parts of the equation. How to get to Wine Alley Govan in Glasgow by Bus, Train or - Moovit British Shipbuilders road to privatisation was not as swift, and the group was sold piece by piece throughout the course of the 1980s. The wine in the Wine Alley nickname was not expensive red and whites like Beaujolais and merlot. The Old Govan Fair. 3.75/4 3.75 / 4 (0 reviews) Staff Knowledge & Friendliness 4/4. Was never out your streets up the fighting lol Peg & the Fleet pussies,Possil Border kicked your assesmany times. Does anyone remember my dad Iain Campbell and mother Margaret Marshall born 1921 and 1922? Great memories. Town officials arranged for the deepening of the Clyde in 1759, the reclamation of the channels between the islands (The Whyte Inch, The Black Inch, and The King's Inch), and the construction of quays and docks. Within 10 years, Glasgow Corporations repair and maintenance service to the area had declined noticeably because the Corporation was simply not interested. Govan young team. Of Contact. Delete. I was so focussed what was in front of me, I never looked behind me and I disappeared over the edge. Helen Dunlop and I have kept in touch all these years, she is only one month younger than me and lived across the street, therefore we have known each other all of our lives. In Cowie Street, Kinning Park there was a pub at the corner but can't remember what it was called? [31], In 1999, GEC's Marconi Marine division purchased the yard when Kvrner announced its departure from the shipbuilding industry. 122m The Govan Shed . JDK-8141210 : Very slow loading of JavaScript file with recent JDK My mother and grandfather raised me alongside my two sisters and three brothers and various in-laws who moved in and out of the home through the years. My father was called up at the beginning of the War and my mother died when he was in Europe, I went to live with my grandparents on Wee Logie Street, I was 2years old and spent the rest of my childhood there until 1956 when I came to Canada with my grandmother to live with my uncle (my mum's young brother). What a memory. My maternal grandmother Mary Agnes McDermott and her family came to Govan from Ireland in the early 1900's. (was it Grant's????? Used to jump the dykes with my brother Kenneth. Govan Memories | Reminiscences That suggested that the suspect was taking the van south to Manchester or Liverpool to pick up much larger drug consignments. My gran was Ella Campbell who lived in Greenfield Street during the 50s and 60 s. I was born in Govan in 1950 at 10 Pearce Street across from the P.I., there was only one close in Pearce Street. HP10 9TY. Would love to hear if anyone remembers the Wallace family! Contact Us. We do not pre-moderate or monitor readers comments appearing on our websites, but we do post-moderate in response to complaints we receive or otherwise when a potential problem comes to our attention. However, the local paper still remained hostile, hypocritical, and unhelpful about the whole idea. I also went to the Glasgow City Mission which was in Kintra Street, how I loved my childhood. Smith did know Glasgow well, but Edinburgh (where he later worked as Secretary to the University) was gloriously exotic. Bookworm.mamatime on Twitter Almost went to St Anthony's primary. I remember at one time there were thirteen of us staying in the house including the lassie across the street who came to stay for a night and more or less remained there for about five years. On the 21/6/2005 the plans for the future of Govans Central area were publicly revealed showing that housing and concern for unemployment was high on its agenda. With its bad name, many people from Moorepark could not get jobs while those that could often disguised their addresses and, if they a they moved away because of its bad reputation Gradually, the decrease in services, coupled with, a by now high turnover of tenancie let house, led to the accretion of demoralised families coming into the scheme and all the stories about Moorparks good-for-nothing population seemed to be justified. Otherwise, unless there is agreement between authority and community, issues like social segregation will never go away unless something is done is because the housing system (and the way it operates) encourages the separation of the rich and the poor. The authors would like to thank Glasgow Braendam Link, The Faith in Community (Scotland) Transformation Team, Oxfams UK Poverty Programme, and the Poverty Alliance for suggesting the idea of this project for the worlds Poverty Day on October 17th 2005. and education and learning came into my thoughts. The evidence they gathered was crucial and the jury was able to see the gang operating on the video footage shown to them. Providing a family base with a family room in Govan, with weekly meetings in Govan and Easterhouse Providing consistent, non-judgmental support to families and individuals, and home visits to families in crisis He wanted to discover how and why such places came into being and to see if remedies could be found. Post moderation is undertaken full-time 9am-6pm on weekdays, and on a part-time basis outwith those hours. [6] Govan is believed to have then been part of a kingdom ruled from Dumbarton Rock, known as Alt Clut, the rock on the Clyde. I would say about 90% of them never stayed in the winey they probably stayed kintra st, briton st, brighton st or clynder st etc but never the winealley. I have no memory just my dad's story. My father was a chemist who worked for the SCWS. I was born in 1946 at 16 Elderpark Street, I had 3 brothers; Harry, Robert and Ronnie, we all went to Greenfield Primary school, Harry and Robert also went to Govan High School and we also went to 168th Boys Brigade and lifeboys. Vezi mai multe de la Sunny Govan Memories pe Facebook. He liked nothing better than tothrow empty drugs packets out of his window and watch a crowd of desperateaddicts scrambling for them. Reading the posts recognised a few names. The Old Govan Fair. Co. Ltd., Alexander Stephens & Sons, J & G Thomson, Harland & Wolff and more. One was that there was no real attempt at involving the tenants in these changes, nor was there any attempt at involving the community in the future management of their own locale. Lastly, the reflections are intended to be used as a tool among the many Church, statutory, voluntary, and charitable organisations, to aid and encourage a fresh approach to the eradication of poverty in our lives today. I cleaned it up and he must have been watching, as he came back out to see if I had done well. Providing activities for member children and young people Providing informal and formal training for family members The planning process commonly involves the juggling of conflicting interests in such a fashion that it is agreeable to all interested parties at least, no one side has to sacrifice itself unjustly. Govan has had several local newspapers over the years such as the Govan Chronicle and Govan Press published by the Cossar Family (1851-1983) and by John Maclean (20062014) which also served the communities of Kinning Park, Cardonald, Penilee and Hillington, and the Govan Post (19831988) published by Cook, Paton & Co. of Paisley, now part of Dunfermline Press. A friend called called Alison Galbraith. ; Scots: Gouan; Scottish Gaelic: Baile a' Ghobhainn) is a district, parish, and former burgh now part of south-west City of Glasgow, Scotland. I really like the big Co-op department store and Woolworths on Langlands Road. Data returned from the Piano 'meterActive/meterExpired' callback event. In Great Britain, community planning has evolved and not only has it kept its identity, but it has also retained its application as a primary vehicle through which social change is enacted at a local level, by members of the community acting together to improve the lifestyle of the group as a whole. Glasgow undercover cop reveals alter-ego life in 80s drug gang I used to go there with my Mum to Woolworths, they had shoe shops and everything you wanted. [16] In 1912, Glasgow annexed Govan after a series of annexation battles. On 13 July 1577, the teinds of Govan were granted to the University of Glasgow, and the Principal of the University ex officio was appointed minister of the parish. The writer on housing problems, T. A. Markus, wondered why many important questions were never asked in the planning process. The Burnside gang were found with 150,000 in heroin and a large sum in cash. Somewhere, communication had broken down so completely, that while the latter felt powerless to do anything about the situation, the remedies of the former only made the situation worse. Doublers; Rounders; Kick the Can; Ropes I could go on and on particularly with the little verses we once recited lodged in my brain still! I try and tell my grandkids what a fanfastic place it was to grow up, no money but lots of pals and never bored. My dad was Boaby Rodgers he got knocked down and killed when I was 3 in 1964 and my mum was left a widow with 4 wee girls. During the late 19th century, the population of Govan increased more than tenfold: from 9,000 in 1864 to 95,000 by 1907. This settlement was set aside on 20 December 1621, and only the patronage of Govan was left to the University. Nobody like them in the World. Good memories. There existed a hospital in the area, and as quasi-religious foundations were not taxed, it had never been assigned to a sheriffdom. Built in the early 1930s by the 1970s the Wine Ally had developed a fearsome reputation, the council \"modernised\" it and tried to reintroduce the original name Moorepark but after 40 years of being the Wine Alley most people forgot about or even knew that the Wine Ally was originally called Moorepark and did not approve of the name Moorepark and continued to call it Wine Alley. Glorious Govan. Without a home, mankind has no place. Many of the latter were too poor, ignorant and disorganised to remedy the situation themselves, and so the earliest community planners or social agencies necessarily undertook the first initiatives for planning and providing for people. 4, Soon, the housing scheme had a bad name. In fact, within only two years of the first tenants moving into their 7-storey deck-access blocks (in 1972); they had begun to complain about severe dampness, condensation, and water penetration. Canmore ID 315779. Young Young Winey (Govan) (G51) (Moorpark) 'Republican Wine Alley' SC 020951 I remember the following; sitting on the kerb at the mouth of the close playing with the soft tar on the road in the summer with a stick and my mum using melted butter to get the stains of our clothes, playing peever with a shoe polish tin, making up little shows which we all performed in the high backs ,climbing over the pailings, and often getting our knees impaled on the sharp spikes at the top, playing balls against the wall singles and doubles too, climbing onto the steamie roof and jumping onto the pub roof dodging the barbed wire spikes, playing ropes singles and doublers, and swinging on the telephone wires above the low back steamie roof, Summertown Road steamie and baths. This site is part of Newsquest's audited local newspaper network. Glasgow Braendam Link, Pearce Institute, 840 Govan Road, Govan, Glasgow, G51 3UU The most famous of these housing estates is Moorepark, sometimes referred to jocularly as "The Wine Alley"[22] - this area was named by The Independent newspaper in April 1994 as one of the worst areas in Britain, with drug abuse being a widespread problem and unemployment standing at nearly 30% (up to three times the national average at the time). I would like to hear from anybody who knew any of us up until 1981 when my mum and dad left Ibrox to move to Craigton. Anyone remember Quinn's pet shop in Harmony Row? The first was an experimental improvement programme, which had the initiatives: the partial modernisation of the houses, the re-planning of the external environment, and the construction of a Tenants Hall. Govan is home to the Scottish Junior football team Benburb F.C. Very fond memories. Fairfield Shipbuilding and Engineering Company was renamed Govan Shipbuilders in 1973. Lots of other good memories but also remember the terrible fires which took place. Around this time heroin dealing was rife in Govan, particularly in an area called Moorepark, which was nicknamed Wine Alley. Wine Alley, (Moorepark) Govan (1975) - YouTube A Gannett Company. The origins of the Doomster Hill are a mystery. Hi, I'm not from Govan though my grandparents, Janet (Nettie) and David Finlayson owned a newsagents in Neptune Street in the 1940s/1950s. The people of Govan didn't often use a vet, but came into the shop with their poorly pets and we all fussed over them, cuddled them, nursed them and Jackie recommended and administered patent pet medicines like Bob Martins. Her name was Mary Murray. Govan feels vibrant again. WINE ALLEY ' Y' NIGHTMARE - PressReader My maternal grandfather was a master brass moulder in the shipyards. Lesbian actress Raven-Symone showed off her high top fade and her unique backpack at the Los Angeles Premiere of Fox's 'Empire at ArcLight Cinemas Cinerama Dome in Hollywood, California. My family lived at 100 Harmony Row, Govan until I was 10 (born 1953), I lived there with my father Guido Gonnella, my mom Susan, brother William and sisters Helen Marie and Susan also lived with us. Community planning began in the rapidly industrialising 19th century cities of Great Britain and America where reformers and well-wishers wanted to ameliorate the appalling living conditions of the working classes. My husband and I ended up going into the USA. However, as little seems to have changed in the last 30 years does this mean that at last, local communities are to be involved in making decisions about their futures? Where was this democratic, progressive authority when it built the shambolic Gorbals tower block scheme? These were not cleared until well into the 1970s. Napier's Shipyard in Govan was later acquired by William Beardmore and Company in 1876 and incorporated into William Beardmore and Company in around 1900. I went about with Harry Bitters, Nick Shearer and John McLeod in the mad days of the early 70s. While debating the (Greenwood) Housing Bill of 1930, the MP John Wheatley insisted that Britain would never get rid of its slum problem as long as it continued to set aside for a particular section of the community an inferior quality of housing The above extract comes from the enquiry that the sociologist Sean Damer wrote on the history of what was regarded as the most notorious slum-housing scheme in the Glasgow of the 1970s, Moorepark, or as it came to be known by Govanites and Glaswegians the Wine Alley of Govan. When in trouble the Govanites all come together. And I went to see Grease at The Liceum on Govan Road. 14276 Southeast 176th Street. Dry Docks Cafe. We moved to Cardonald when I was very small but used to go back to Govan all the time and stay with my grannie at 711 Govan Road, above McLarens Newsagents. She got married in 1956 to my grandfather Robert. A great place to live. Community service. Naturally the slum dwellers of Govan, who though it their right to have most of the new house in their own locality, were angry and outraged at their expectations being ignored by the authorities. Socialites Karrueche Tran, left, and Christina Milian attend the Los Angeles premiere of Fox's 'Empire' at ArcLight Cinemas Cinerama Dome on January 6, 2015 in Hollywood, California. Community organisation. This was a very hard job physically where we would carry a wicker basket (full of ashes, etc.) Used go there for coffee and listen to juke box. 8 Markus, 1993, p. 163 I went to Harmony Row school then Hills Trust school, then to Govan High school. We engraved pet medallions and Jackie let me do it because I had nice handwriting. The City of Woodinville's Mayor Mike Millan cut the ribbon to mark the occasion. Further, that by becoming involved in social, political, and economic activities, the community of any area can organise itself in such a fashion as to understand that community, or collective power is real. It was regarded at the time as perhaps the worst slum in Britain, and the people who lived there were treated like vermin by the authorities whom we treated likewise. Great memories of Summertown Road baths. Only neighbours I remember were children Mary and her younger brother James Haggerty who lived in same close which I think was 95 Golspie Street. Much later, after years of drink and drugs abuse, I thought about all the time I had wasted and I realised that if I was going to seriously change my life than I had to reeducate myself into a new way of thinking However, people striving to improve their existing environment have limited freedom to act independently. The owner later came in with home-made tablet for all of us. I went to Harmony Row school and below is my class photograph from around 1957, I have given the names as far as I remember starting at the back row left. Nothing but grateful for my early Govan years. Beforesentencing, judge Lord Caplan told Burnside: ''You have been a significant dealer in a dreadful trade and the courts have seen the havoc it causes among young persons. Acumfaegovan - Posted on Behalf of Mags Monaghan The "Wine | You can make a complaint by using the report this post link . 3 Smith, 1999, p. 40-41 Yet, there is still much to show that community power is not only real but can work effectively. Old Photographs Govan Glasgow Scotland tourscotland 31K subscribers 111 27K views 5 years ago Tour Scotland wee video of old photographs of Govan, Glasgow, on the south bank of the River Clyde,. My dad was taken in to see the wee boy, turns out it was me. This was around 1954ish. When all my pals joined the Lifeboys I went along too for 2 weeks, I think the hall was on Portman or Middlesex Street. Our father would be home right before we had to leave for school, so he would take us as it was not safe to cross Langlands Rd., Unfortunately, the week before Christmas in 1943, our grandfather was killed by a bus right at the Vogue cinema. My earliest memory is when I was about 4 playing outside our close 39 Nethan St, my mum had got me all dressed up as the photographer was coming to take our photo , me and my 2 sisters sitting on the sideboard I wandered out the house with my new truck with wee soldiers in the back and was playing in a puddle when the photographer arrived and had to get all cleaned up again before the photo was taken, I have FTD (dementia) this affects my short term memory but fortunately not my long term memories, I have cousins who still stay around the wine alley. Remember, Charlies sweet shop opposite us, where after playing football we were soaked in sweat, you got a glass of lemonade for threepence. My mum's brother Spinx (George Hewitt) stayed in Teucharhill and my dad's brother Alex Rodgers drove a milk float. 81 Albums for you to enjoy : - Sunny Govan Memories | Facebook When Damer returned to the area in 1989 he found that his earlier report had had two outcomes. The spin put on the regeneration programmes of the past have put too much emphasis on bricks and mortar rather than helping people deal with their own problems themselves. Quickshift Tyre Services - - WorldPlaces Especially in the Scottish context, given the important role that they have played in community planning. Only neighbours I remember were children Mary and her younger brother James Haggerty who lived in same close which I think was 95 Golspie Street. It was great reading all the stories. 100m Freshair Salon . I asked him if I was going to jail, he said not at all and he gave me a sweetie. on our backs to the midden motor outside the closes or houses where we worked. The following year, Fairfields and the other major Clydeside yards (Stephens, Connels, Yarrows and John Browns) were merged to form Upper Clyde Shipbuilders (UCS). These incomers earned the contempt and resentment of some disgruntled local inhabitants, who focused on problems of anti-social behaviour in the estate, which acquired the nickname "Wine Alley". Life in wine alley I was born in 1950 and brought up in Govan in the Moorepark housing estate or the Wine Alley, as it was commonly known. Eventually, my dad arrived asking if anyone had handed in a wee lassie. Clydebuilt Database - Shipping Times, Stuart Cameron. Used to spend all summer there paying in twice, having to queue up for second swim with towel around yourself sometimes freezing and having to wait in line. In sum, effective participatory urban management calls for a fundamental rethink from all the players involved, from the local authorities and development agencies, through local (and sometimes international) non-governmental organisations, to the community-based organisations themselve; in redefining their roles and relationships, if something is to be done for the benefit of all. A similar uncertainty existed regarding the nearby lands of Pollokshields and Westends. Thus, the major failing of any community planning is its inability to understand this relationship between the community and authority in detail and in an objective manner. Renton, WA 98058. Situated south of the River Clyde and part of the former Burgh of Govan, it was colloquially referred to as 'Wine Alley' during the mid-to-late 20th century when a housing scheme with a rough reputation was sited there. We are the Eskimoes. The main point of the Presentation was that, in an area which had lost 80% of its population (between 1951 and 2001), the re-zoning of demolished housing areas for warehousing and offices meant that there was less chance of people coming back into the area to live, as houses were needed in these areas and not anonymous commercial barns and offices. Any profits went into the family home and we knew that we would get in return our Saturday matinee money and a sweety. Used to have a friend called Theresa Moody who died quite young. I was attending what was then known as Duns Academy when my father decided to emigrate to Canada. It brought tears to our eyes as they have destroyed a lot of the buildings that should have been refurbished.
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